Tuesday, December 29, 2009

Log It Baby, Log It!



Back from Kelowna, had a great Christmas with my family. No snow there for Christmas, it was actually depressing. I prefer 30 below with snow and sun, than 5 below and no snow or sun.

Every time we make the journey from Edmonton to Kelowna, I notice our huge carbon sink, called trees, we have trillions of them, maybe even gazillions of them, but we get no credit for them from the IPCC and idiotic organizations like Suzuki, and Pembina.

OTTAWA - Canadians rely partly on our nation's forests to help save the world's climate. Now evidence says it's time to stop.

In Canada we know we burn too much coal, gas and oil, creating the "greenhouse'' gas called carbon dioxide.

But we have learned for years that in the fight against climate change, this country's vast forests too many trees to count pull carbon dioxide out of the air again, locking it up as solid carbon in branches, roots and trunks.

Just one problem, scientists now say. It's largely wrong.




We noticed an increased level of logging activity in BC. It's about time! Log it! Why not, the eco-nuts tell us that Canada's forests are not a carbon sink. Fine, then we can log it all we want. Right?

These idiots are so determined to make CO2 the big bad wolf of global warming, that they have turned some of us off on conservation. If we are all going to die in 2012, might as well make hay while the going is good. Oopps, hay is bad.

And in farming, reduced tillage can prevent carbon loss because disturbing soil accelerates the release of carbon into the atmosphere. "It's been estimated that we've lost a billion tons of carbon from our prairie soils during the 20th century due to sustained cultivation of soil," said Grant. "That's five years of our current emissions." He added that putting unused fields under grass rather than allowing them to lie fallow is also helpful.


Notice this guy uses Suzuki as a source... that pretty much says it all about this "expert".

So, let me get this right. Alberta needs to shut down the "tar" sands, we need to stop planting wheat, and we need to kill all those flatulent cows, buffalo, pigs, and chickens. Even if we do all that, we will still be the bad guys because we are red neck Conservatives who believe in the "live and let live" ideology.


Yikes, frozen water? I thought the Arctic was melting and here we have road side waterfalls that have frozen solid.

Some other photos for my eastern friends who have never had the chance to see the Rockies up close and personal.

This mountain clearly shows the force that created it.






Downtown Banff from our hotel window:



Notice the "maybe" language these "experts" use? If the science supported them, they would be saying things like we are "positive" that..., but they can't because global warming is a money transfer scheme.

If trees are not a carbon sink like the "experts" at the U of A are telling us, then log them baby, log them!!! If 40 billion acres of trees has nothing to do with CO2 consumption, then let's grow veggies, that should make the eco-nuts happy!

11 comments:

The_Iceman said...

Fantastic point! We should get carbon credit for the vast quantities of CO2 our forests consume! Brazil is chopping down their carbon sink to expand sugar ethanol production. Remember when people used to care about the rain forests? Right, chop them down for ethanol, isn't that what Al Gore would want us to do?

Alberta Girl said...

Welcome home, Hunter!

It is simple grade seven science that plants NEED and USE carbon dioxide.

That's why, for anyone to call CO2 a pollutant, in a country that has as many forests as we do, is not thinking.

I guess when you need to prove a theory, and the trees are messing up your result, well, just take out the trees.

So for all those who actually beleive in this bunk, I say, wake up, go back to your grade seven science book and ask yourself how you could have been so stupid.

maryT said...

Welcome back. In case you have not heard, we got the best Christmas present, a new gr/granddaughter born Christmas Eve.
Lots of miracles took place on Christmas Eve and Christmas day.
300 passengers not killed, wonder if they will make any changes in their lives.
Just saw a story on Fox re a father who brought his pregnant wife to hospital, in bad condition. Actually she was presumed dead, and was rushed to OR. Baby handed to father, also presumed dead. Then, after about a minute the baby boy let out a sound, and mother also come back.
Both mother and baby doing great. Father says it is a miracle and his prayers were answered.
Oh, and Rick Casson received over 2800 Tim Cards for the troops, and his original goal was 500.

hunter said...

MaryT, that is excellent news! Congrats on your Great Granddaughter! Christmas really is a magical time of the year.

hunter said...

Well Iceman, if Brazil can do it, why can't we? Not that I want us to, but BC really needs the lumber industry and from the amount of logging trucks we saw on the road, it appears logging is making a comeback.

Alberta Girl, thanks, it's always a knuckle biting drive, and it's good to be back home. How can so many people be so blind as to believe CO2 is a pollutant? Grade 7 is right, unfortunately they start scaring our kids in grade 2.

Patrick Ross said...

Cripes, some of this stuff reads like it was written by a monkey with a type writer.

"Overall, in three of the four years they measured, the forest was putting slightly more carbon into the air than it took out a bad thing, if we want forests to store this material."

Way to go, Canwest.

You know, it seems like this would suggest that, just as climate skeptics have been saying for a good long while, climate is actually... cyclical?

Naw. That's crazy talk.

Anonymous said...

Well, parliament is prorogued:
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/744175--pm-suspends-parliament?bn=1

maryT said...

Hiking, read Geddes at NNW, where he asks the question, is it or isn't it.
So far no announcement from the PM or GG.
Apparently there was a phone call between the PM and GG, but it was private and no comment on what was or wasn't said.
Remember last time, every few minutes cbc showed the PM standing in the rain, making his announcement.

CanadianSense said...

Time to "short" those Green stocks!

Anonymous said...

MaryT: I do hope that the media is incorrect. I think that proroguing Parliament will be very bad optics. There really is no reason to prorogue right now and it looks petty. I do with that our PM would tell it like it is and embarrass the LPC into putting aside its lust for power and think of us Canadians for a change. I would like to see our government govern instead of spending its time fighting off false and scurillous (sp?) charges coming from jealous LPC with its ineffective pseudo-leader.

liberal supporter said...

Trees fix (absorb) CO2 in photosynthesis and the CO2 is released when the wood is eventually burned or decomposes. Other trees absorb that CO2. It is a balanced system.

Burning fossil fuels over a few hundred years has released CO2 that was fixed over a period of millions of years. That is why nothing balances it, and why it is increasing the CO2 levels in the atmosphere. Some of it is being absorbed by the oceans, but they are becoming saturated and so CO2 levels will increase more quickly in the atmosphere.

Simple grade seven science tells us that CO2 passes short solar radiation but reflects longer wave radiation coming from the solar radiation reflecting off the ground, effectively trapping the heat. The excess heat is measured by average global temperature. Note that the planet Venus, with an atmosphere 95% CO2 has a surface temperature of 460C. It is actually hotter than dayside Mercury, despite being nearly twice as far from the sun. Temperature changes on other planets tell us how much warming is due to solar variation. The earth is warming by more than that, and the increase in greenhouse gases is likely the reason.