Sunday, February 10, 2008

Get Over It Liberals!

Stephen Harper is the Prime Minister of Canada, he has been for two years! Dion is the opposition Leader, he is NOT the PM, so it doesn’t really matter what he thinks, he has no power to put what he wants into action, only the elected Government can do that, and last time I checked, that was the Conservatives, not the Liberals, NDP or Bloq.

I am tired of juvenile, disrespectful ranting from the lefties (Okay I admit, I’m ranting myself, so they are free to call me on it). I am tired of the anti-Conservative media slant in just about every single report I read, or listen to. I am tired of slander slung at the Conservatives like the NDP did, standing in the House and stating that Moore was looking at scantily clad women, without even talking to him about it first. It shows how low the opposition will stoop to disparage the Conservative government.

The opposition should keep the government’s feet to the fire, but not just to oppose, to work together to build a better Canada. They are not doing that, they are trying to make up scandals. The lefties have all the power in committees because this is a minority government, and they are using that fact to their own partisan ends. It disgusts me that Szabo can visit Schreiber’s lawyer and still chair the ethics committee. That Thibault can visit Schreiber in jail twice, and then be seen with him in a restaurant, looking over documents during the Christmas break, and the media doesn’t report it, except for Mike Duffy. CBC has not released the names of the two Liberal MP’s that got fed questions to ask Mulroney at the ethics committee. Pablo has openly lied, but because he is a Liberal, it's hidden in the media. Nice ethics there Liberals.

The PM visits the Quebec Carnival; do we see any video of that? This is what we get:

Harper's appearance at the carnival, though, may not have been enough to swing some voters to his side.

"No way," said one woman who saw the Prime Minister's performance.

"I didn't change my mind. He's a very nice man but I didn't change my mind. No. I'm Liberal, through and through."


So, they interview one die-hard Liberal, and that becomes the truth, that's news?

We get Dion yapping about Afghanistan, and how the Liberals have a plan. Right, a plan to keep our soldiers there without bullets, that is surely a solution… to failure. And when the Liberals are forced to sit on their hands on crime legislation, they know it doesn’t matter, because the Liberal Senate can stop it from passing. In essence, the Liberals get two kicks at the cat, in the House and in the Senate, so who really is the government right now?

We have a Prime Minister that other nations respect, but not lefty Canadians. Canada is punching above its weight in Afghanistan, and the opposition is so busy vote gathering and supporting the Taliban, that Canada’s reputation on the world stage doesn’t even matter to them anymore, if it ever did.

The opposition is disrupting any good legislation because of partisan politicking. The one bill I want passed is the age of consent being raised from 14 to 16, this was one of the first bills introduced and two years later it’s being held up in the Senate.

The Bloq is useless, the NDP will never gain power, the Greens are irrelevant and the Liberals are so arrogant they still think they are the government.

You see this kind of idiotic comment, time and time again.

Out with Harper
Please bring it on!! i've had just about enough of Harper's "american-style governing". He's had enough time in office to get it together! Out with the conservatives!!

(From the CTV site)

It appears the Conservatives are running a daycare filled with opposition babies and infantile voters. Hopefully the adults wake up and realize that the Conservatives are the best bet whether our economy tanks or not. (I don't think it will, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland oil will keep on giving, to all of Canada. Oh, and Chretien coming to Alberta and telling us to share the wealth went over like a lead balloon. Why do Liberals insist on coming to Alberta and lecturing us?)

Who do you prefer looking after our economy, an economist or a sociologist?

19 comments:

Bob in Ottawa said...

Yup, that sums it up quite nicely, Hunter!

Anonymous said...

You're a fucking psycho.

E in MD said...

I love how wingnuts like you complain about leftie civility all the while hosting a banner ad mocking the 'Status of Women Canada' organization with a picture of a pig and the words 'Abolish the Sow'.

I guess civility is only required to be used by people other than you.

I am tired of juvenile, disrespectful ranting from the lefties (Okay I admit, I’m ranting myself, so they are free to call me on it).

You're welcome to rant all you want in your own blog. If I don't like what you have to say, I'll change the channel. However, hypocrisy such as the constant calls for civility and offering none that's not something I can ignore. As far as your comment on disrespect? Respect is earned not bestowed. and your team has done nothing to earn my respect or the respect of anyone else left of center.

Social conservatism and liberalism in societies ebs and flows back and forth over time. One generation is more conservative then the next is liberal and so on. Eventually the pendulum will swing back toward the left again, you will fall out of power and you will be the ones being laughed at and told 'you have no power so shut up.'. What you and your buddies fail to realize is that you are setting the rules of engagement for when your time on the margins of society comes rolling back around again. The more you mistreat those left of you the more they will remember it later. So, keep it up.

Alberta Girl said...

"Respect is earned not bestowed. and your team has done nothing to earn my respect or the respect of anyone else left of center."

Ok Ed - let's have a respectful discussion here.

Tell me what - in the left's mind -the conservative government has done that has NOT earned your respect.

CC said...

Since I linked to this post earlier today and I've invited my readers to take up Alberta Girl's challenge, I thought I'd start things off with a single example of why I have no respect whatsoever for the Stephen Harper Party of Canada.

Let's recall Harper's reneging on a clear and unambiguous campaign promise -- a patient wait times guarantee. And let's recall how that guarantee magically disappeared when no one was looking.

But wait ... it gets better, as Harper eventually claimed that he came through with that guarantee when, in fact, he had done nothing of the sort.

There, that's my contribution. I'll leave it to others to add to that. I'm thinking names like Rona Ambrose, Bev Oda, Peter Van Loan, John Baird and Sandra Buckler will figure prominently.

But that's just a guess.

M@ said...

Harper claimed that he wanted to reform the Senate to an elected body, and wanted greater accountability for the government.

His first day in office, he appointed a senator, Michel Fortier.

That senator was given the Public Works cabinet portfolio. This meant that the very same ministry where the Liberal sponsorship scandal happened would be led, under Harper, by someone who does not answer to parliament.

On the senate, Harper is hypocritical. But with accountability, Harper has been completely dishonest. If Harper were really serious about senate reform or government accountability, he never would have made that senate and cabinet appointment.

That didn't earn my respect; in fact, quite the opposite.

Hope that was civil enough for you.

Grog said...

What has Harper done that has NOT earned my respect?

1) Lied to the Canadian public about income trusts.

2) Introduced legislation that violates fundamental tenets of our legal system. (The so-called "get tough on crime" bill which has more holes in it than a brick of swiss cheese)

3) Bullied, mismanaged and otherwise fucked up the agencies of government. (So far he's fired how many agency heads for daring to question his authority?)

4) Being more secretive than any PM since "Lyin' Brian" Mulroney.

5) Blatantly taking his foreign policy marching orders from Bush in Washington.

That's for starters...

Anonymous said...

do you just attract liberals with zero critical analysis skills?

900 ft Jesus said...

What has not earned my respect and in fact earned my contempt for the Steve Harper government (far too much to list, so here are a few):

Removing “equality” and “advocacy” from SWC, then putting the “advocacy” back in where it makes no difference, then trying to claim this was a new thing, an improvement to SWC’s mandate.

Passing a very weak accountability act that leaves out sections recommended by Reid and Gomery, and promised to the public, then not even enforcing most of what’s in the Act they passed.

Getting rid of one top public servant after another when the public servants present realities Harper would rather bury.

Using a Dirty Tricks handbook to stall and disrupt committees, then turning around and saying it’s the opposition’s fault nothing gets done.

Blaming public servants (something they said they wouldn’t do) every time one of their Ministers mess up - MacKay & O’Connor blaming public servants by claiming they were never given briefing books; Flaherty blaming public servants for breaking TBD rules and sole sourcing a speech for 122,000.00; blaming Keen for Lunn’s and Clement’s incompetence surrounding the phoney isotope crisis...

Running the most secretive and deceptive government ever - harder to obtain info from ATIP; info received is heavily blacked out despite no justification for that; acting like Schultz from Hogan’s Heros with every Minister pretty much saying “I know nothing!”; lying about Afghan detainee transfers, isotope crisis...

Trying to undermine democracy and trivialize voters by appointing “go-to” people in non-CPC ridings - the Naked Mayor, Fortier, and others.

Avoiding debate by having the House rise earlier than usual and sit later.

M@ said...

do you just attract liberals with zero critical analysis skills?

Ah, here we have the respectful discussion Alberta Girl was after. Well done, anon.

E in MD said...

Alberta Girl said...
Ok Ed - let's have a respectful discussion here.

Tell me what - in the left's mind -the conservative government has done that has NOT earned your respect.


Alright, if you're serious about having a reasonable discussion, I'll respond in kind. With one caveat: my original response was referring to the right wing conservatives over all and not ones specific to Canada. I don't feel familiar enough with what's going on in Canada to be able to comment on it in any real depth.

My comments will be based on what I know of right wing conservative types in the States. But from what I've seen in the news and on the Canadian blogs I've been to ( both left and right) the only differences I see between Canadian and American conservatives are superficial at best.

By the same token I won't expect you to be intimately acquainted with the nonsense going on down here ( which would be rather arrogant of me ).

Is that fair?

To be honest I'd be quite pleased to have an actual decent reasoned discussion with someone on the right that doesn't end with me being called a traitor because I won't bow before them and completely change my entire ideology to please them.

Anonymous said...

grog..it is always convenient to discuss IT's and leave out the truth. A little blip in the media before the election revealed that the Libs were afraid to act on IT's and were actually considering it. That's when Brisson e-mailed his banker and basically said relax, we won't touch IT's.Corruption that was ignored by the media!The Libs were too chicken to do it!!
IT's had to be changed and Harper was brave enough to make the decision.That's what boggles the mind of the left.

Hunter makes good points about the media...they have their own agenda.

hunter said...

Yikes! I go to work and come home, and my site is infested with Liberals! HA!

Actually, thanks Alberta girl for getting the discussion going, and thanks to most commenters for keeping the discussion here civil.

Well all except the first anon, I normally do not allow swearing on my site, but will keep that one up because it shows exactly what I am talking about.

It appears e in md likes my site so much they came back twice.

SOW's, the way the organization was set up before served no-one but advocates who did nothing for the women in need, unless you call a paper real help for women. Liberal talk, have meetings, moan about the problems, and get nothing done.

We Conservatives are used to being stomped on by the lefties, "hidden" agenda's, "Bush lites", f##king psycho's, wingnuts, you name it, the lefties have called us it. We took it for 13 long years, you can't take one post by a blogger without getting your shorts tied up in knots. Get over it!

900 ft - the accountability act was weakened by the opposition parties. Dirty tricks handbook? Did you even bother to read how Liberal's are corrupting the ethics committee, of all committee's to be unethical in, the Liberal's pick the ethics committee, that's what disgusts Conservatives. It appears the Liberal's have not learned anything, especially morals.

Some issues posted here are valid, some are just Liberal's, not getting over it.

Frank Frink said...

ah, anon. "it is always convenient to discuss IT's and leave out the truth."

How convenient of you to leave out the truth of Harper telling seniors to vote for him because unlike the Liberals he promised to never, ever mess with their ITs.

While I'm at it, speaking as a (federalist) French-Canadian. No federal party leader or PM will ever earn my respect by playing footsie with seperatistes be they hard, soft, mushy, or par-boiled.

E in MD said...

It appears e in md likes my site so much they came back twice.

Liking your site has nothing to do with why I returned. Someone wanted a reasoned rational discussion, I returned for that...unfortunately in the next paragraph you point out to me that i am wasting my time.

SOW's, the way the organization was set up before served no-one but advocates who did nothing for the women in need, unless you call a paper real help for women.

Not my point. You complained about liberals not acting civil and then your first action was to make fun of one of your 'opponents'. That is the opposite of civil.

Liberal talk, have meetings, moan about the problems, and get nothing done.

Sounds like you're describing Congress down here more than anything. I admit I'm tired of their excuses. Bush should be sitting behind bars by now.

However, would you prefer rather than having meetings we just wander around shooting people? When people on the left try to get things done, the people on the right obstruct, obfuscate, lie, cheat, make false accusations, intimidate, alter research. In short you do everything in your power to prevent us from making any progress at all in our own agenda and then claim that everything is stacked in our favor from the MSM to the government when the exact opposite is the case.


hunter said...

We Conservatives are used to being stomped on by the lefties, "hidden" agenda's,

Thats because those on the right have supported hidden agendas. As noted I can't speak for Canada, but the conservatives down here supported a President and Vice President, who violated our Constitution, discarded habeas corpus, ignored whatever law he wanted, tortured people, kidnapped people, eavesdropped on people, ignored Congress, rounded up and arrested even silently protesting critics into Free Speech Zones, squandered untold billions of dollars on a pointless war of choice and aggression ( Iraq ), failed to spend any time securing critical infrastructure in said war zone, discredited any opposition at home, betrayed national security ( Plamegate ), lied to Congress, allowed mercenaries to murder civilians and even rape other contractors with no oversight, no management and no consequence. Not only did they support it when Bush first started doing these things, they re-elected him and refuse to support any sort of remedy such as impeachment.

And this does not even comprise a comprehensive list of the questionable, illegal and immoral activities of the administration down here. Yet the right continues to cheerlead for it.

How are the rest of us not supposed to see hidden agendas and conspiracies? In America at least, we're living under one.

"Bush lites", f##king psycho's, wingnuts, you name it, the lefties have called us it.

And we've gotten the same exact treatment. I can't count the number of times I've been called a traitor or terrorist appeaser because I am angry that my civil rights can be so easily tossed aside. Or because I refused to support something as juvenile as the whole 'freedom toast' thing. Or because I don't believe in sending soldiers into combat without proper equipment or keeping them in moldy roach infested hospitals when they come back.

We took it for 13 long years,

The Conservative movement took control of the American congress in 1994 and after 1/20/00 they also controlled the white house. There might have been some verbal fencing on the left before 9/11 occured but after that it was the right on the offensive and that offensive never ended. It didn't matter if we were pointing out corruption or lies or torture or murder. We were wrong because we didn't agree with you. Even now after the 2006 election wherein the Republican majority was removed because of their gross mismanagement of the nation the propaganda and attacks still continue. Though now, because it is no longer as popular to trash liberals on every news cast and radio show it's starting to lessen. Now I have to go to Fox News to be insulted and have my patriotism questioned.

you can't take one post by a blogger without getting your shorts tied up in knots. Get over it!

I say again. You complained about civility and a lack of respect on the part of the rest. Then you proceed to attack us and tell us to 'get over it'. That is the opposite of civility and respect. If you want it, you gotta give it.

. It appears the Liberal's have not learned anything, especially morals.

I'll be sure to email Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Eric Prince, George W. Bush, Alberto Gonzales, Larry Craig, Bill OReilly, Mark Foley, Glen Beck, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Ted Haggard and Pastor Aldridge for lessons both on civility and morals. I'm sure they'll have tons of advice.

Alberta Girl

Sorry AG. Looks like that reasoned discussion isn't going to happen at least not here. First thing hunter did through the door is come out swinging with an ax to grind. If you guys wanna play bash the Liberal thats your own business. But that's not how you earn respect or have a reasoned conversation about the issues. Which was the whole point as I recall.

Oh well.

KEvron said...

where'd alberta girl go?

KEvron

hunter said...

e in md, you fail to note that the first thing you called me was a "wingnut", that's civil?
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When people on the left try to get things done, the people on the right obstruct, obfuscate, lie, cheat, make false accusations, intimidate, alter research. In short you do everything in your power to prevent us from making any progress at all in our own agenda and then claim that everything is stacked in our favor from the MSM to the government when the exact opposite is the case.
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You are describing exactly what the Liberals are doing right now to the minority Conservative government. You also might not know about the around 40 million of taxpayer's money the Liberal party stole and put into their own party coffers.
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Sorry AG. Looks like that reasoned discussion isn't going to happen at least not here. First thing hunter did through the door is come out swinging with an ax to grind. If you guys wanna play bash the Liberal thats your own business. But that's not how you earn respect or have a reasoned conversation about the issues. Which was the whole point as I recall.
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The title of my post was "Get over it Liberals", second comment calls me a f**king psycho, third comment your's (e in md) calls me a wingnut, and I'm the one with an ax to grind?

I'm perfectly willing to debate, I think the problem is that it's hard to debate on such a wide issue as who's better, the Conservatives or Liberals, meaning the specific political parties here in Canada. No-one is going to convince the other person to change their opinion. I'm not going to convince the other posters here that Conservatives are worthy of their vote, and they won't convince me to change my vote.

This blog is a Conservative blog, in support of Conservatives, not a "middle of the road, I don't know who to vote for" blog. I'm going to be biased.

Thanks for taking the time to post though, it's interesting how your perception of the Republicans in the States, is exactly my perception of the Liberals here in Canada.

M@ said...

And I'm sure you were appalled, simply appalled, at the actions of the Conservatives during Paul Martin's minority government. Right?

Or did you actually swallow Harper's rhetoric that they were trying to "make government work"?

trog69 said...

"I am tired of the anti-Conservative media slant in just about every single report I read, or listen to."

Um, that's the Progressives little 'secret weapon'! I think others would call it "the truth".