Like that's going to happen! What planet is Quebec living on? Can you imagine him in Alberta? Right, he's as appealing to Alberta Conservatives as Iffy is. Dream on Quebec, he's no Conservative, he did everything he could to make Conservatives in Quebec lose the last election, and they think we in the west will embrace him? HA!! Too funny.
Quebec needs to realize that the Conservatives can win a majority without them. They also have to understand how much Canadians hate the idea of a separatist party that wants to break up Canada. Now that Alberta will be sending 18 Billion less to the feds, and Ontario is a have-not province, something is going to have to give, and I think it's time for Quebec to get with the program. How can they go through all of Confederation as a have not province? You would think they would be embarrassed. I have way more respect for Newfoundland then Quebec. Quebec keeps electing the useless Bloc, because they think it makes them more independent, what it does is make them powerless to influence anything.
How can Quebec have a $7 a day daycare program when no other province can afford one? Maybe the 8 billion a year over and above what they send to Canada should be cut off. Why do they have lower tuition fees for their students than other provinces? How do they afford all those extras that no other province can? Why isn't Quebec Hydro included in equalization payments?
Personally, I have nothing against Quebec, but if they think that Charest is ever going to win the next leadership election for the Conservative party of Canada, they better think again.
Prime Minister Harper is going to be around for a long time no matter how hard the MSM and Liberals try to change things. Get used to it!
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YEAH! You go Girl!
Charest? Conservative? What, is he going to cross the floor yet again. What is it with these dorks that they just won't stop with their delusions? Bob Rae won't leave. Elizabeth May won't leave. And, now, Charest is wanting to return to the Conservatives? Argh.
The best thing that could happen for Canada would be a majority govt without a great number from Que. Let them sit there with just Bloc and see what happens.
My question is, did all those voters who gave Charest his majority vote for him, or the liberal party. Would they vote for him as a conservative.
BLY refers to an article in the FP praising PMSH's speech yesterday.
Charest probably thinks he's a "conservative" just like Joe Clark thought he was a conservative. The thought of Charest at the federal level again is scary.
Quebec needs to realize that the Conservatives can win a majority without them
With conservatives bleeding support in Ontario to the Liberals in a big way, I fail to see how Harper can muster a majority without Quebec.
Hunter - continuing your theme re: feminism (and I am with you 100%), here is an interesting column by Antonia Zerbisias. I don't normally agree with her, but today's column is one of those rare ones with which I agree. One line from the column which caught me:
"And still, the cry goes out, whenever these pajamahadeen want to attack Islam, where are the feminists? Where are the moderate Muslims to denounce these heinous crimes?" Yes, where are those vocal feminists when real crimes against women are committed? Nowhere to be found, it seems.
Here is the link to the column:
http://www.thestar.com/living/article/599953
The LAST thing the conservative movement in Canada needs is another quasi-liberal Quebeker. If, and that's a big if, Charest ever became the leader of the CPC that will be the day I turn in my membership and stop voting.
Obviously another attempt by the usual suspects, to change the channel.
What drivel. Card carrying conservatives, would rise up in revolt, if this guys name was ever on the ballot.
It's not an issue, we have our guy and plan to keep him.
It was idiot progressives, like Charest, that destroyed conservatism throughout Canada in the 90's.
Completely out of touch, with his country.
Mulroney causing trouble in Conservative ranks by floating that story because there is an enquirey about his conduct( as well there should be). The last leadership candidate Mulroney gave us was Belinda - we know how that turned out. I think Canadians have finally figured out Quebec politics and are saying so publicly ( George Baker made it pretty plain about regional parties and how they actually are effective if we let them be).
Truth is that the only place Mulroney has any influence in the Conservative party is in Quebec and thus it will always be.
The CPC can win a majority shortly, especially after the redistribution in 2012 where 21 seats will be added outside of Quebec.
But if Charest was elected leader of the CPC, I know that I will withdraw my membership and even support or run as either Independent, Reform 2.0, or Libertarian. Frankly we have had enough Quebec leaders, there are plenty of qualified Unilingual Anglo members that should be eligable to run the country.
Ditto with everything you said. The MSM will push this story just to cause dissension. Cheers.
I hate to say it, but Charest always reminded me of one of the Marx Brothers - the one with the clown hair.
Aside from his appearance, Charest is not trustworthy. First, crossing the floor puts me way off - it smacks of cheap ambition. Second, he may have won a majority in Quebec but just watch what grief he'll bring to the province. He just does not come across as competent and I certainly don't trust him.
Good grief, if he runs as a Conservatie, that would make a double floor-crossing.
East, Charest, never crossed the floor,he was the federal PC leader, from, 93-98ish . When he decided to enter provincial politics, for Que., he was recruited as a Liberal with the hopes of winning over the PQ.
Provincial Conservatives in Que? Not as we know them, I don't think.
Bec - granted, he didn't technically cross the floor but he did go to the Liberal party at the provincial level and, for me, that pretty much does it. To me, it makes the guy look like an opportunist - a political whore, so to speak.
Ohh, that's so true! Doing the HARD work to rebuild the federal party versus the option he was offered,well, you said it.
I still don't quite understand the Conservative party/Quebec situation, as it applied back then.
Was Charest the leader of the Liberals before or after the ADQ came on the scene?
If before, then he went to the "anyone but PQ" which means that he "might" still be on the right side of the ledger. We have the Liberal "anyone but NDP" in BC and they are a right wing party. We can't forget that even former Progressives Tories are in and welcome in the new improved CPC.
I would cut Charest a little slack in leading Quebec away from the separatists.
East of Eden @ 10:51:00 AM: "Good grief, if he runs as a Conservatie, that would make a double floor-crossing."
I'm not defending Charest, East, but Churchill himself crossed the floor twice.
As far as Charest is concerned, he'll probably find some boardrooms where he can fit in. If he runs again in Quebec, he'll probably lose to the PQ.
As for becoming the leader of the Conservative Party, Charest lacks the kind of energy required to meld the different regions of the country, IMO. He strikes me as someone who doesn't push himself too hard. The only advantage he has is he's perfectly bilingual, and whether some of you agree with that or not, i.e. the need for bilingualism, that's the reality of Canada at this time. Whether that requirement will change, I don't know.
And to West Coast Teddi's question, the ADQ was founded in 1994, and Charest became leader of the provincial Liberals in 1998. Not my memory, just good ol' Google.
Was Charest the leader of the Liberals before or after the ADQ came on the scene?
He was leader in the 1998 election against Lucien Bouchard, another former federal Conservative. I didn't see ADQ at the top in the wiki page, but it seems ADQ did field candidates in all ridings, winning 1.
If before, then he went to the "anyone but PQ" which means that he "might" still be on the right side of the ledger.
If by "right" you mean right wing as opposed to "correct", he is generally seen as a red Tory.
We have the Liberal "anyone but NDP" in BC and they are a right wing party. We can't forget that even former Progressives Tories are in and welcome in the new improved CPC.
The problem many have with the current CPC is the perceived very strong social conservative bent. Fiscal conservatism was "borrowed" from Reform by the federal Liberals when they balanced the budget.
I would cut Charest a little slack in leading Quebec away from the separatists.
I think this is important enough to try and be non-partisan about.
Once Quebec is removed from the equation bilingualism is a very expensive failed experiment of the past.
Trudeau was never about making everybody bilingual - he intended that Canadians should be able to deal with the federal government in either language - how we deviated from that for political gain is still our biggest most expensive mistake.
Hmmm, Liberal Supporter, pretty impressive and responsive. We'll get you yet.
This is idiotic Albertan anti-Quebec regionalism. Charest was an amazing leader of the PC Party in the 1990s, he won support in Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, the Maritimes, and even endorsement from Alberta Premier Ralph Klein in the 1997 election. The Quebec Liberals (right-wing neoliberals) have been corrupt since Bourassa, Charest was a beacon of hope for them. With the shackles of the long-time corrupt QLP off of him, Charest would be an amazing Conservative leader. Alberta and Quebec CAN work together.
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