Saturday, November 29, 2008

The West Is Ticked!

Boy did Roy Green from AM770 CHQR do a number on all three of these guys (okay Libby is a gal). Here is a commercial free edition for your pleasure. Make sure you listen to the last two segments, the listeners give some very good commentary. Thanks to frmgrl for the link, it starts at 12:00 and goes until 2:00, well worth the listen. Libby Davies gets smacked down good.

After listening to it, my feeling is: The west is ticked, really, really ticked!

We have also been hearing endlessly about how the Conservatives only got 38% of the vote and therefore 62% did not vote for them, this apparently justifies a coalition government. Not so fast there buddies, let's have some fun with numbers. I remember taking a course in university where we were shown how to lie with statistics, the opposition seems to have taken that course as well.



So, looking at the results, the Conservatives clearly were the winners. Now for the fun with math!

This comment was posted on the CTV site:

Paul B.
Seems a lot of people on here have limited math skills. Yes, if you add up how many votes Libs-Dippers-Greens-Bloc received, it is more than the Conservative's.

Now this is where your math is flawed. Conservative's ran 308 candidates. The wanna-be coalition ran more than 970, so, ya, sure they would receive more votes.

Funny no one used the same argument when the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Coservative's ran in the same elections, getting a combined vote of more than the Liberal's.


So, what we have failed to do, is take into account that the opposition are adding up the popular vote numbers and forgetting to divide by 3 or 4. Remember that only one party can win a seat, so popular vote doesn't mean dick if you don't win! For example, let's look at Ontario's numbers:



The Conservatives got 2,019362 votes, the lib/grn/NDP got 3,091044 combined, so if we divide their vote by 3 we get 1,030,348 for their coalition. Now, that's fun with the numbers! Face it, popular vote means nothing if all parties are running candidates.

How did it work out for Green May? The Liberals did not run a candidate, so according to their logic, she should have won because all Liberal voters would then vote for the coalition candidate, right??? Wrong.



Peter MacKay won with 18,239 votes, May came in second with 12,620, and that is without a Liberal candidate running. In order for May to have won, the NDP would have had to axe their candidate, and even then only if all NDP votes went to May, would she have won.

In order for a coalition government to have any chance, they have to run only one candidate in each riding, potentially eliminating the NDP, Green and Bloq candidate so a Liberal could win. Are the other parties willing to disappear so that the Liberals can get back to the trough? I don't think so, but it would be funny to see the fight over who runs a candidate where.

If this coalition of the hopeless wants to win, they better not ignore the west, and I don't just mean holding a convention in Vancouver. Now, won't that be funny, are the NDP, Greens, and Bloq now invited to vote for the new Liberal leader? That would really show the GG that they truly are a coalition!

10 comments:

wilson said...

Libs won 7 out of 92,
Dippers 14 out of 92
seats in the 4 Western provinces.
That's 8% lib, 15% Dipper
combined total 23% for the coalition!!
And that was with Dion reassuring voters there would be no coalition!

You bet we're mad.

The numbers for Quebec and the ROC should be shown separately, because of the one province run for the Bloc.

Cons won 57% of the seats in the ROC.

No one can assume that all those who voted Dipper and Lib would vote for a coalition, didn't happen for the united right.

Southern Quebec said...

Now that the West has been given a chance to run the place -- and failed-- maybe we can let the grownups back.

HRH PMSH did not care about the economy, he was only taking care of himself. Maybe if he want to show REAL CANADIANS that he was serious, he would cut back on all those great perks that the MPs get -- like their gold plated pension plan.

Anonymous said...

Not only in the west,many of us in the east as well!I feel as my vote has now been highjacked and as a result I will now join those who don't care about ottawa and Canadas political system at all.Another step towards Canadas collapse as a country over a $1.75 entitlement.

Alberta Girl said...

"Now, won't that be funny, are the NDP, Greens, and Bloq now invited to vote for the new Liberal leader"

Ha Ha - I can just see Jacko and Lizzie battling Iggy and Rae for the job of leader!!

Yikes - can you imagine.

jad said...

Actually the math is a lot simpler.

Number of candidates run in 2008 election by Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition - 0

Number of candidates elected in 2008 election by LIberal/NDP/Bloc coalition - 0

I guess the Liberal, NDP and Bloc MPs currently elected and sitting in the House are essentially planning on crossing the floor en masse to the coalition.

West Coast Teddi said...

An old saying: "figures never lie but lairs figure". "How many sets of books does an accountant really have?".

Good "analysis" of some of the numbers. Can the "Coalition of the Swilling" (H/T SDA) really govern from downtown TO??

wilson said...

''Now that the West has been given a chance to run the place -- and failed-- maybe we can let the grownups back.''

And that is the arrogance of the Liberals.
Once again Canadians made a huge mistake and voted in an even stronger Conservative government.

SQ, Canadians showed Liberals to the door in the last election.
Take your exit, because you guys are so going to wear this coalition thing.

Cons won 48% of the seats in Ontario, even your base questions Liberal ability to run this country.
I look forward to the upcoming polls in Ontario,
Finance Minister Layton....lol

Southern Quebec said...

Hey Wilson, I voted pour le Bloque Quebecois in the last election, so the Conservatives would not get elected in my riding. :)

hunter said...

SQ that just shows your lack of maturity. You never vote against something, always vote for your ideal.

Raphael Alexander said...

Wow, there are 1.3 million separatists in Canada. Damn!