In one corner we have Dan McTeague, in the other we have Bill Graham, choose your Liberal! The Brenda Martin case needs to be closed, and yet the Dion Liberals continue to yap. So watch this, and see who takes the principled approach.
The Liberal's should have kept Bill Graham as the leader, he understands the difference between grandstanding and principles.
Where have all the good Liberal's gone lately? I actually liked ex-PM Martin, I thought he would make a good PM, and keep our budget balanced, but I was sadly mistaken, he was not a leader, just a good finance Minister. Bill Graham was a good leader, and now that he is out of politics, continues to be balanced.
Then we have McTeague, he's really out of control and it's obvious that Dion can't rein him in. Add, Thibault, Holland, Coderre, Fry, and LeBlanc, to name only a few, and you have Liberal MP's out of control and only in it for themselves. It's really quite embarrassing for the party.
Choose your Liberal, carefully, they might be representing you!
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Liberal MP Dan McTeague, is clearing riding this case for partisan purposes with his false innuendos, which was clearly demonstrated when Jane Taber’s observation made him backtrack on his claim that the foreign officials did nothing and that the Prime Minister did not speak to Mexican President Calderon. He has been going in front of every MSM camera he can find to blame Prime Minister Harper for Ms Martin's predicament.
Bill Graham on the other hand has given a principled and reasonable response to the given situation. He was a much better leader of the Liberal party than Dion will ever be.
Bill Graham has made it very clear, our Prime Minister can not go into every country where our Canadians get in trouble, go into their Government business and tell them he is bringing the Canadians home, regardless what they are charged with!. McTeague thought he was doing a great job here bashing the PM... well, now what, is he going to go to every jail around the world, bashing the PM because he isn't brining home our Canadians who are in prison in other countries, or was he only interested in a little publicity here?. Just what, if Ms. Martin is guilty.... after all, she was in Mexico for 8 year illegially, I think Ms. Martin will prove to be the one who will make Mr. McTeague and the whole media look foolish. The media went to Brenda's family home, and asked the Mother a million times while the camera was rolling, "did the PM do enough for Brenda"... Jane Tabor asked her on T.V. as well, just hoping and praying she would bash the PM into the ground. Well, I wonder if Jane and her media liberals are not going to go from country to country supporting all the other prisoners who "claim" they are innocent. Remember OJ Simpson claimed he was innocent too!... ... Jane contacted Stocwell Day at the Summit with the PM and her only questions, when was he bringing Brenda home... and was he only getting involved because of all the pressure at home... nothing about the summit, just bash, bash, bash, She and McTeague thought they had a thing going... well they are the foolish looking ones now!
I agree here, there is no doubt that Bill Graham is a better leader. He has the experience of cabinet all around and the common sense and intelligence to see the situation beyond petty partisan politics.
Too bad he had to go, but then again, the cons probably wouldnt have faired as well had he stuck around.
I have new respect for Bill Graham.
Good catch Hunter.
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"and it's obvious that Dion can't rein him in."
Hunter are you kidding me? Dion would have said the same thing maybe even worse. Dion isn't an honourable leader of the opposition, he's a desperate partisan hack. Dion hasn't said one thing as Liberal Leader that has remotely maid sense.
Bill Graham sounds a lot like a Conservative to me, McTeague....well he sounds like an idiot.
Sorry, that's made sense not maid sense.
''Dion isn't an honourable leader of the opposition, he's a desperate partisan hack''
When he first got elected, I thought Dion was going to be more like Graham than Ralph.
I was looking forward the the battle of ideas.
Was I wrong ?
or did the know-it-alls in the Lib camp ruin him, by sending him out like just another dog in the attack pack?
I think of the Libs as sinister now, since the staged EC raid.
I don't hate them for it, I have simply lost respect for many Liberals I used to respect.
Maybe I'm being partisan????
With their faux scandal a week/day approach, they are going for the cummulative effect to knock off Harper.
Maybe the cummulative effect they will get is a growing lack of respect for a party that used to be king.
I guess in a nutshell,
Graham represents what the Liberal party used to be.
The Brenda Martin story has consumed many hours in the past few months of our government's time and the taxpayer's money that goes with it. The saga has a very sad tinge to it and nobody but nobody would want or wish to be in Brenda Martin's shoes.
However this is no excuse to provide anyone with an opportunity to lay blame where it doesn't belong or to accuse career people of not doing their job.
Dan McTeague, who has chosen to ride this story for partisan reasons, has the temerity and gall on the program Mike Duffy Live to blame Stephen Harper and the government for the fact that Brenda Martin was found guilty by a Mexican judge.
Members of the Canadian consular staff were accused by Brenda Martin and her supporters of doing nothing on her behalf, although officials had said, over a hundred interventions had been made by staff in regards to her case. McTeague chose not to inform himself of what was done but rather slammed the staff for inaction . When it was leaked of some of the efforts and work done on behalf of Martin by consular staff, which validated their declaration, McTeague's response was that an investigation and law suit should be launched for this breach of Martin's privacy - trying to secure the truth and facts in the case were of no consquence but it was more important that open season could be conducted on the integrity and efforts of consular staff, without the opportunity to defend themselves.
Canadians also would like to know what McTeague and Martin supporters thought the Canadian government should do with a sovereign nation like Mexico, to secure the release of Brenda Martin, in spite of the fact that her case was winding itself through the judicial system and she was not being mistreated in the jail. Should Canada storm the Mexican jail and free Brenda Martin? Should the Canadian government bar the travel of the hundreds of thousands of Canadians to Mexico every year who enjoy the hospitality of the Mexican people and the Mexican government, and the protection of the Mexican judicicial system while they are there? Should the Canadian government have recalled the thousands of Canadians that work in Mexico to come back to Canada for their own protection because they are in serious and imminent danger and can not expect any help or assistance from a lazy and incompetent consular staff?
When, on behalf of Canadians, Prime Minister Harper dispatched Jason Kenney, the parliamentary secretary to the Prime Minister, to Mexico to meet with Mexican officials and Brenda Martin, one would have expected this effort would have been appreciated. However rather than being gracious, Charles Rusnell reports that "Ms. Martin's supporters ,including her mother, had slammed the trip as nothing more than a photo opportunity."
We have heard for the past several months that Martin's defenders, which include Dan McTeague, their ace in the hole in Martin's defense was an affidavit from her former boss Alyn Waage, a convicted felon, swindler and con artist that she was innocent - what would give anyone reason to believe anything he would say and what defense lawyer worth his salt would put this crook in the witness box to help bolster his case.
Claire Hoy offers some sober and illuminating thought to this bizarre case when he wrote
"Yet we as Canadians, or at least many of us - along with most of the media - have recently adopted the position that if a Canadian is in jail outside the country there's automatically an injustice being done - to the Canadian.
Apparently, Canadians are all innocent as the driven snow and no foreign country really has a right to exercise their justice system against us. And, when they do, we tend to paint them as corrupt Third World despots."
Ha, Brilliant Hunter, just brilliant.
It was in the cards that Bob Rae would be the new liberal leader, and so Graham had to resign to give the guy a seat. However, something happened on the way to the leadership. By that time it was too late for Graham.
How many of these liberals will be re-elected.
CTV reported a few nights ago that perhaps all the frenzie over Martin backfired on her. Hey, she could still be in a Mexican jail for weeks or months, and what if she is allowed to return only on condition she spend a long time in a Cdn jail. If I was in charge in Mexico that is what I would demand.
Anyone catch her speaking very fluent spanish on tv, and her case was delayed because she didn't have a translator present. Works in Canada but not outside of Canada. She is her own worst enemy and is solely responsible for her trouble.
Wilson, you got it right!
The more we read about Brenda Martin don't you get the impression that the more you learn about her the more her character seems to fit the mould of the character she is accused of being.
From what we have read doesn't she sound like a fraud and a con artist by her actions that would be capable of what she is accused of.
Graham was a true class act yesterday on MDL. I noticed that he didn't take the bait when Tonda tried goad him into smearing the government. She seemed a little taken aback when he didn't bite.
McTeague on the other hand is another story. Perhaps Mr. Graham should have a chat with his former colleague.
Ah crap, do I have to choose? Ok, then I pick a dead one...
What puzzles me is how Brenda Martin's supporters are assuming she was unjustly convicted, just on her say-so. Have they read the prosecutor's file and studied the evidence? I can guarantee you, if you went to a Canadian prison and interviewed the inmates, they would ALL proclaim their innocence, swear up and down that they were framed, set up and wrongly convicted... The partisanship shown by McTeague and her other supporters is shameful.
LOL...it would be very interesting to learn if Martin or any of the co-conspiritors were ever card carrying members of a political party in Canada or made considerable Campaign contributions
Hunter -- I just added this link to my post today on Bill Graham.
He was a much better leader of the Liberal party than Dion will ever be.
Thank you for your concern!
Last week it was "they should have had Bob Rae as leader". Before that it was "they should have had Ignatieff as leader". Now it's Bill Graham?
All this hand wringing that the Liberals chose the wrong leader. All this concern, coming from CPC supporters!
Hahahahahaha!
Face it, Dion is your worst nightmare. He keeps making you underestimate him, while the stink of your scandals gets thicker and thicker.
It seems we need a right wing interregnum every 20 years or so, just so the next generation of people get to see how bad it could become. The current right wing interregnum is again nearing its end.
Fortunately, they have not been able to irrevocably destroy Canada.
"It seems we need a right wing interregnum every 20 years or so, just so the next generation of people get to see how bad it could become. The current right wing interregnum is again nearing its end.
Fortunately, they have not been able to irrevocably destroy Canada."
LMAO...ya, it's taken them 2 years to clean up a part of 13 years of Liberal coruption... but the auditor general and RCMP will continue to follow the money and lay charges and make arrests...
And through the last 2 years the CPC for the most part have successfully fended of smear after smear after smear. Meanwhile his own people have set Dion up to look more and more like a yappy puppy having a tantrum...I can't even immagine him as our Prime Minister... most normal people can see it for what it is.... He's scrambling, out classed and out matched by his betters. I'm reminded of the old saying about brains, dynamite, and someone blowing their nose...
There's not been a single agenda or piece of Liberal policy unless you count Dion's dog (something we're hearing now as being trash science...the Global warming crowd realizes the science is seriously flawed... 98% of GHG is water and they forgot to include something as simple as the cooling effects of rain in their climate models...go figure?!?), not even a policy convention since the leader was selected by a shock to even the party itself when a large indo vote crossed to his camp. ... I'd love to know what he agreed to for their vote/support.
What I really love is Liberals keep screaming about hidden agendas and backroom deals. Meanwhile in truth it's the Liberal agenda that's the hidden one.
"Me thinks she doth protest too much"
Show the world one piece of the puzzle of what the Liberals have to offer that's different and people can identify with that won't bankrupt our country for them to line their own nests???
The sad truth is they've got nothing... they haven't figured out what questions to have on the poll to set their agenda and they haven't collected or stolen enough money to even pay to run the poll...
The sad truth is they've got nothing
Good! Then there is no problem. Why would you call this sad? You'll get your majority and we'll all live happily ever after, right?
What am I missing here? Why all the trash talk from you?
Anon 4:17, I'm thinking the trash talking started with Anon 3:15. Thanks to Anon 3:48 for responding in a logical manner.
Anon 3:15, I don't like many Liberals, except my parents, but if given a choice, at least Graham acts like an adult, and understands sometimes things aren't about being partisan, but being a responsible representative of Canada, no matter what party you are with.
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