The Liberals issued a talking points memo to their party members Monday, saying the byelections were a referendum on the Conservatives.
"If the Conservatives fail to win all of the seats in tonight's byelections, it will be a signal that Canadians are still not willing to turn over the keys to such a partisan and incompetent government," the party maintained.
The talking points also said that the Grits have not held the ridings in "in 30, 40 50 years," while the Tories "have held all four in recent memory."
Now that is so funny, the Liberals expect the Conservatives to win ALL 4 ridings or it reflects badly on them? How about the Liberals at least increasing the vote percentage in a riding or two? Or are Liberals colluding with the NDP?
Let's see last election in New Westminster--Coquitlam:
Close race, the Conservatives just about won. They got 38.8% to the NDP's 41.8%. The Liberals had 11.3% of the vote. Now look at the by-election results so far:
Liberals are at 9.1% so far. The Green party vote has totally collapsed, in BC no less. So are lefties voting for the lefty candidate that can win against the Conservatives? A coalition of sorts? Did Liberal voters in the BC riding switch to NDP? Just when reports are saying that the New Liberal Leader Donolo is going to try and get the NDP votes? Chucker Canuck has the scoop on that one. How's that working for you Liberals? I know, I know, give it time....like 10 years.
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Can you imagine the coverage if the libs had won one riding. cbc/ctv gave little coverage to our win in Quebec. No one predicted it, and lots of coverage re NDP winning one of the Quebec ridings.
Lizzie must be in deep mourning, will her candidates get their deposits back.
Well, well, well. If the Tories didn't win all 4 seats, they were losers?!?! How does that even compute?
How about the Liberals sucking in every single riding? What's the real excuse for that? And not winning any of them in a generation or so doesn't count. What's the message being sent right now? That the Liberal message is weaker now than it was a year ago, that's what.
HEEEHAWWW!! This is a terrific outcome and strong endorsement of the government as the country claws it's way out of the world wide recession.
The Liberals can say what they want but if they are as strong as they have suggested, their showing should have been much stronger. Especially against the Dippers.
MaryT, the Greens did horribly, they were a victim of the economy and Lizzie May.
I know Hinchey, the Conservatives held NONE of the ridings, but according to the Liberals needed to win all 4. Well the Liberals held NONE of the ridings and they went down in votes.
Bec, it is usually unheard of for the government to do good in by-elections, so winning 2 out of 4 is HUGE!
Sigh...
People, the memo was to counter the spin the CPC were trying to instill in the media that these by-elections were a test of Ignatieff. Why would they be a test for the LPC when the LPC never had any shot at winning?
So, the CPC took back a seat they have owned for a very long time, and they ran a popular former mayor in a Quebec riding and squeezed out a win there.
I agree it is a feather in Harper's cap to take the Quebec riding, but taking back the NS riding is pretty much meaningless. That said, the victory in Quebec did not come out of the blue - most pundits noted the CPC candidate there could win given his track record in the riding.
Our national media doesn't have a damn clue what Canadians think, and neither do the polsters.
Pundits points:
-gun registry bill bad move for Cons in Quebec (EKOS polster)
-Quebec big loser in stimulus sweepstakes, get least pork (Canadian Press analysis)
-Harper damaged beyond repair in Quebec (Donolo)
-CPC will lose half their seats in Quebec in a general election (every pundit)
-Craig Oliver: bold prediction Sunday:
2 BLOC, 2 NDP
Time for Liberals and their media to shut up.
And quit making excuses for the Liberals, Gayle.
The LPC is in the toilet. period. for reasons of their own doing.
The Harper government is riding high 'against all odds' because Canadians trust them to steer the country thru these bad times.
That trust was EARNED.
That trust was an uphill battle the CPC and Conservatives fought for 10 years.
Last night, when I saw the results of NewWest, I had the same though as you, at first. That being there was strategic voting.
However, the numbers don't support that. The NDP picked up ~10% more vote share from the previous election. The CPC lost ~3% of their vote share. The 10% the NDP gained were at the expense of all parties, not just the left parties.
I believe this came down to the HST and how it played as a local issue in that particular by-election.
Our national media doesn't have a damn clue what Canadians think, and neither do the polsters.
I am so thankful that we have the great unbiased "wilson" to enlighten us. (that was sarcasm for the humour challenged here).
Pundits points:
-gun registry bill bad move for Cons in Quebec (EKOS polster).
Right now it is in committee so the effects will not be seen in a byelection yet.
-Quebec big loser in stimulus sweepstakes, get least pork (Canadian Press analysis).
Except this specific riding was handed a $242 million highway widening, how many days before polling day was it again? Something in the single digits.
-Harper damaged beyond repair in Quebec (Donolo).
In a general election, yes.
-CPC will lose half their seats in Quebec in a general election (every pundit).
I hadn't heard that, where did you get that blanket assertion?
-Craig Oliver: bold prediction Sunday:
2 BLOC, 2 NDP.
Who is "Craig Oliver" and why is he important to you?
Time for Liberals and their media to shut up.
Why? Are you so insecure you can't stand dissent?
I'd be happier if the right wing dominated media would shut up. It will be wall to wall wilsonitis (hyperpartisanism) in the Sun, and on all the Corus stations. Adler will be particularly chipper today, I'm sure.
Liberal Supporter: How can you say Shilson is humour challenged when he makes funny statements like this:
"The Harper government is riding high 'against all odds' because Canadians trust them to steer the country thru these bad times."
Go Shilson!!! Next yer goin' to be telling us that Harper has made Canada a safer country! Come on...ya know ya want to!!!!
Go Shilson!!! Next yer goin' to be telling us that Harper has made Canada a safer country! Come on...ya know ya want to!!!!
On no, not at all, the gun registry has already taken care of that....
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Some of us should understand the plight of self-loathing apologists for the Liberals.
Gayle is working overtime trying to defend the party that did not have the ability to whip their MP like the Bloc.
She does not understand her Liberals and NDP were broken by the CPC. Gayle lives in AB and think's Ottawa knows better.
Gayle is under some assumption the Liberals and NDP have any desire to stand up and risk an election.
On no, not at all, the gun registry has already taken care of that....
If repealing the long gun registry makes us safer, why not repeal the hand gun registry? Shouldn't that make us the safest?
Ha ha ha.
The person who blames all Harper crticism on the fantasy world where there is a liberal controlled media thinks I should stop making excuses
Oh wilson - she of the "let's make not inconveniencing farmers more imporatant than crime investigation" argument.
It is to laugh.
CS - time for you to get over me.
LS - the argument re; gun registry not decreasing crime is a false one. The point of the registry is crime investigation. Of course, as I pointed out to wilson, it is also another tool the police can use to deal with such urban issues as gang crime as it gives them reason to arrest and/or search said gang members, but wilson thinks it is just too much to ask of farmers.
Wilson and the farmers she supports are being totally selfish.
Let's not forget the role the registry played in the investigation and arrest of the two men convicted of aiding Rosko when he killed 4 Mounties.
Wilson does not care about these facts.
Wilson don't need no stinkin' facts! He got attitude on his side! hahahahahaha
The amount of money spent to buy that seat in Quebec ($242 million) would pay the current operating costs of the firearms registry for the next 30 years.
SQ: "wilson" is a she, I believe.
Let's not forget the role the registry played in the investigation and arrest of the two men convicted of aiding Rosko when he killed 4 Mounties.
Wilson does not care about these facts.
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:26:00 AM"
Let's not forget the role the gun registry played before Rosko shot the Mounties?
Gayle does not care about these facts.
Too funny, the lefties are trying to change the subject from the Liberal beating that voters gave them in the by-elections.
Tisk, tisk, it's okay Liberals, grab your cheque books and donate $1000 to your Liberal cause, they need it, and you will feel much better.
Why boconuts
I think it played the same role as minimum sentences played.
Maybe you could find the post where I claim the registry prevents crimes.
Maybe you could find some proof where it says the registry played a part in the investigation and arrest of the two men convicted of aiding Rosko when he killed 4 Mounties.
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