Tuesday, June 10, 2008

If We Wiped Out The NDP, Greens, And The Bloq...

How would you vote? IF we only had the Conservatives and Liberals to choose from next election, how would you vote. This is a question asked by Harris Decima in their latest poll. Seems that's the only way they can get the Liberals to come out ahead.



How does CTV report this?

Electorate leaning towards Liberals: poll
Updated Tue. Jun. 10 2008 8:47 AM ET

The Canadian Press

OTTAWA -- A polarized electorate may be tilting toward the federal Liberals at the expense of Stephen Harper's Conservative government, a new poll suggested Monday.

The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey compared attitudes toward the Tories and Liberals in a head-to-head, two-party format. The telephone poll of just over 1,000 Canadians found that 44 per cent of respondents said they'd prefer a Liberal government after the next election, compared with 37 per cent who preferred the Conservatives.


Misleading? No Kidding!!! We hear time after time from Liberals, only 36% of Canadians voted for the Conservatives, so 64% voted against them. At 37% the Conservatives have actually picked up a point, and the only way Liberals will get 44% is if they wipe out the other lefty parties.

Since the 2006 election, the Conservatives "have not been able to enlarge their tent," said Harris-Decima president Bruce Anderson - notwithstanding a generally strong economy, fat government coffers and the incumbent's opportunity to control the agenda.

"If anything, the leaning and the second-choice support profile of Canadians is disproportionately headed in the direction of the Liberals right now," said Anderson.


Hello Anderson, we have one right leaning party, and 4 lefty parties, so any second choice HAS to be left leaning. Then we have this little gem:



Read how the question is worded. "Do you think the Liberal party is a lot better, a little better, there is no difference, the Conservative party are a little better, or the Conservative party are a lot better in each of the following areas."

Notice how for the Liberal party, is a lot better appears first, for the Conservatives, a little better is first, why the different order? Why not this question? "In each of the following areas, are the Liberals or Conservatives, a lot better, a little better, or there is no difference." Remember these results are after wiping the NDP, Greens and Bloq off the map.

NDP supporters told Harris-Decima they'd prefer a Liberal government by an almost four-to-one margin (69-18) compared with the Tory alternative, and Green supporters favoured the Liberals more than two to one (58-28).

Only Bloc Quebecois supporters were more favourable to a Conservative outcome, by a 41-32 margin.
I'm shocked!

My last point, when you go to the actual survey results posted by Harris Decima, they breakdown the 3 week average graphs in this order: National, Quebec, Ontario, Atlantic, BC. Do you see the problem? I see the problem. What the heck happened to the Prairies???? They dissappeared Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta, who just happen to vote Conservative. Nope, no bias here.

So not only did this survey wipe out the NDP, Greens and Bloq, they also wiped out Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta! After all the wiping out, the Liberals are at 44% and the Conservatives are at 37%. What a dishonest survey. Harris Decima should be ashamed of themselves.

23 comments:

Ontario Girl said...

55% in ALBERTA would prefer a Conservative Govt? Now we know the pole is a crock. Try 100%

Can't these people get over it...LIBERALS LOST THE LAST ELECTION & are going to LOSE the next one.

Surecure said...

I'm just blown away that 25% of NDP voters would prefer a Conservative government. Are they really trying to tell us that 1 in 4 NDP'ers -- who already think that the Liberals are right wing -- would vote for the Conservative party over the Libs? Outrageous!!!!

If anything, THAT should've been the headline!

frmgrl said...

You know, Ontario girl, They haven't accepted the fact that Lieberals lost. It just goes to show that the MSM are trying hard to help their loser friends out by trying to put a postive slant on everything Liberal. Look at all the non-scandals.

Conservatives just can't seem to get much of break from the press. Good thing the internet is there to get the conservative message out.
Thank God for blogs like this one that bring out truth and reason.

We cannot rely on the Main Stream Media to fair and balanced.

wilson said...

Too funny, Libs win only IF Dippers and Greens SECOND choice is counted.

I'm shocked that 1 out of 5 Dippers would choose Conservative as their second choice!
Hope they do a little strategic voting in the next election to 'Stop Dion'!!

Not surprised that 1/3 of the Greenies lean right, likely voted PC before.

And 20% gave no answer in picking between Libs and Cons, 1 out of 5 respondents is high.
And there in lies PMSHs majority.

23 - 29 % of respondants see no difference between the Libs and Cons values/ideas etc.
Are the days of Scary Harper and his hidden agenda a fading memory?

52% of respondents want an Oct 2009 election, it appears.
A whopping 8% want an election NOW.
That tells me that Canadians are not in any hurry to ''replace this bad government'',
ok with or even comfortable with PMSHs government.

Just a nonsense poll, with an 'in your dreams' question.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they had a poll and asked the question - If you could only vote for Harper or dion - which leader would you choose??.... I would love to see those results, but they will never have that poll asking that question!. It would be the front page news every day, if the feeling for Harper was as bad as it is for dion across this country... they would push that stat is our faces every day!

Anonymous said...

Reid, Ontario Girl...... please review yesterday's Duffy live. Richardson filling for Mike interviewed two people on canada's economy. One said that our economy is going down lost of jobs etc yet failed to say that there new jobs being created in Ontario.Jobs that will take GM employees to make the new efficient style cars with the same paywage they previously got at GM.
The other man(can't remember his name or what he does)said that Canada economy is the best of all G.7

GET THE TAPE BEFORE CTV DECIDES TO ERASE IT.

Anonymous said...

The MSM are the liberals' personal secretaries as they have been for years.

The liberals don't need ads to attack the conservatives; their MSM does the job for them .as you can see hear and read daily and as long these MSM walking ads are around the liberals have nothing to fear.

The MSM have proven time and time again that they are not for the canadian people but FOR liberals and liberals alone.
They continue to manipulate the people they continue to refuse to ask the liberals for OUR MONEY BACk which their liberal buddies stole from; in fact the MSM condoneS it; The MSM condones the liberals support for the AL-QAEDA, HEZBOLLAH, TAMIL LTTE TIGERS, TALIBAN AND THE PLAN TO INVADE PAKISTAN. Yet the liberalS and their MSM cronnies worry about our 'NATIONAL SECURITY" what a joke.
The blogs are the 'NEWS CENTER' at least voters of all stripes can read what is being refused neglected in/BY the MSM.

Ontario Girl said...

AND.. the Liberal media are trying to use hypathetical questions, from the wanna-be lawyer idiots, on the Bernier, Couillard, smear committee, and use it as political ammunition. The RCMP said themselves that they don't react to NEWSPAPERS & GOSSIP. Now CBC are saying today...GOVT COVER-UP. Wonder if there was a security check on the Tamil Tigers Paul Martin had lunch with? Maybe Ducepp should of went to the RCMP , when his "HAIRDRESSER" told him of Couillards security risk past, instead of going to the MEDIA.

As far as the economy goes..CBC Susan Bonner reported that "the Liberals are hoping the economy gets WORSE , to pull the plug. The CARBON TAX will show Dion to be a LEADER".

Get who are asking questions at the Gong Show...the one who we heard his voice on the Grewal tapes...and Jennings...the one who with Holland was marching down the street with CPC documents.

It just keep on coming. Never fails to amaze, me as to what lengths their bias will go.

Anonymous said...

Ontario Girl....It just keep on coming. Never fails to amaze, me as to what lengths their bias will go.

7:43 AM

Until this country falls into the hands of terrorists. FREEDOM OF SPEECH is the starting point.
Deni Goderre wears a hezbollah bandana around his forehead.
Dion, layton, duceppe supports hezbollah flag not canada's flag, paul martin, maria minna etc support the tamil ltte tigers; Jean Chretien supports al-Qaeda. Steward Bell reporter author has a book on CHRETIEN AND THE KADHR FAMILY.
The MSM the liberal party NDP will be the DOWNFALL OF THIS COUNTRY.
NDP wants to chit chat on human right with Syria, Iran etc (DURBAN11)at Geneva.
There are innocent immigrants who migrated to this country to escape terrorism torture murder in their homeland to find what they left behind is right here.

The MSM ARE TO BLAME and they should be held accountable for lying and manipulating.
CBC has reached the garbage disposal.
Time to wake up the ONTARIANS, ONTARIO GIRL. THE MSM ARE AFRAID TO DO SO.

Anonymous said...

Like I've been saying all along, Quebec will be the tipping point for a Harper majority. This poll is the latest proof. Bloc supporters would go Conservatives. And they will in the next election. Mark my words.

Annon at 3:39 said:
"I wonder if they had a poll and asked the question - If you could only vote for Harper or dion - which leader would you choose??...."
There's been at least one poll done on this with the question: "Who's the best leader?" and Harper came way on top. Something like 60% vs. 15% for Dion (The remaining 25% or so to the other leaders)

Posted by: Grind a Grit

Ontario Girl said...

Time to wake up the ONTARIANS, ONTARIO GIRL. THE MSM ARE AFRAID TO DO SO.


All Ontarians read ,is The RED STAR and watch CBC. Talking to them ,is like talking to the Liberals on the LIBERAL blog site.

Now a Liberal Senator is saying Canadians need to TALK to the Taliban. On CBC of course.

I spread the CPC TRUTH and don't care who I am talking too...Liberals or NDP.

ian gregson said...

Anyone who believes the Greens are a lefty party is living with their political head in the sand pile...

Anonymous said...

Most entertaining thread I've seen today!

Electrical power generation involves turbines turning generators. The turbines can be pushed by water over a dam, wind or by steam, produced by burning a fossil or nuclear fuel.

But I believe we have another way. If we could get all the commenters here, discussing this poll and interpreting it to flatter the CPC, and somehow attach them to the turbines, the amount of spin provided would solve our energy problems for good.

Ontario Girl said...

The turbines can be pushed by water over a dam,


You little Liberal can be pushed over a dam too, so get lost and go back to your feel good Liberal side, if you can't take the comments here.

Anonymous said...

The turbines can be pushed by water over a dam,


You little Liberal can be pushed over a dam too, so get lost and go back to your feel good Liberal side, if you can't take the comments here.

"can't take the comments here"? Wow, you can't even assemble a straw man properly. It seems you are the one who can't take it, always telling me to go away.

Hahahahahaha!

You're a parody commenter, right ontario girl? You can't be that stupid can you?

Ontario Girl said...

You can't be that stupid can you?


Just a dump blonde female from "FRUIT LAND"?

Anonymous said...

Just a dump blonde female from "FRUIT LAND"?
Just another strawman builder.

hunter said...

Lefty anon's are fun to play with! They use emotion and name calling to try and make their points, which of course get slammed by Conservatives using logic and facts.

Anonymous said...

Lefty anon's are fun to play with! They use emotion and name calling to try and make their points, which of course get slammed by Conservatives using logic and facts.
Come on, you can do better than that. Everyone knows it is the right wingers that are all emotion and name calling all the time.
Please, try to put together a coherent response instead of just cutting and pasting with left/right and liberal/conservative substituted.

Or not. Your projecting is most amusing. But I only visit because this place is a good place to read the current CPC talking points, unfiltered. But sometimes the dissembling you provide is too funny to pass without comment.

Ontario Girl said...

They use emotion and name calling to try and make their points


Actually, I think things are boring on the other side, or no one pays attention to him , so he comes over here. Keep bumping into him lately. STALKING?...

Anonymous said...

Actually, I think things are boring on the other side, or no one pays attention to him , so he comes over here. Keep bumping into him lately. STALKING?...
Like I said, and you so richly demonstrate in this comment, it's the right wingers that use emotion and name calling.

Hahahahahaha!

Hahahahaha!

hunter said...

Ontario Girl, it seems every blog has a stalker. Mine is keeping to the rules of no swearing, so they can continue to post.

Now if he/she would just pick a name, like "Hunter's Stalker" or "Stalker of Hunter", we could identify them from all the other anon's. Much more personal.

maryT said...

I suggest that when commenting on an anons comments we should call at least one of them leftyhaha
or anonhaha, to identify them.