Sunday, June 08, 2008

They Said It First!! Gas Tax!

I usually don't watch CTV's Question Period, but a comment from Fay on a previous post, made me look into it. Was I in for a shock! They started off showing the new Conservative ad, then quickly forgot all about it, in their discussion of....wait for it.....the Liberal GAS TAX!! Yup, I have the evidence.



They start by saying that Dion has promised it won't be a tax on gas, but by the end, they were all calling it a gas tax, not a carbon tax. They also mentioned that it might be both a carbon (GAS) tax, and cap and trade (another tax). Even these Liberal cheerleaders couldn't spin it positively for Dion. I think they were broadsided by the ads, and their actual non-spun attitudes came out in the interview. It was very telling, but I'm sure the Liberal spin machine will be fixed by tomorrow and they will all be back on script. You can see the whole interview, here.

But, they said it first, GAS TAX! I'm not making this up, I'm not allowed to! HA!

21 comments:

Babylonian said...

I think the liVIRAL party is about to crash and burn, hope they get taxed for the co2 they release when they burn.

Ardvark said...

Tera Nelson on the Global National Evening News stated that Dion's plan would REDUCE the price of gas.

News to me, but since I saw it on television it must be based on some kind of fact.

Hunter, I sent you an email.

Anonymous said...

I think placing ads in gas stations is a very bad idea. People are irritated already and don't need their noses rubbed in it. Also it will take two seconds before these screens will be vandalized by angry customers and Liberal sympathizers who will see that this is a great idea to scuttle the campaign.

After the great fiasco of the Chretien face ads, you'd think the Conservatives would have better focus groups (I know for sure nobody in Quebec was consulted before those Chretien ads were run).

Otherwise I like the ads, though they might have used the words Hidden Tax instead and the fact that the G.S.T. was supposed to replace hidden taxes.

Brian said...

I wonder how "Crag Olivur" would have spun the story if the Conservatives were proposing a "Carbon Tax" rather than his wondrous Liberals ?

I think the CPC is also missing part of the story. If you tax carbon / oil , think of all the products that are based on oil ... plastics , synthetic materials , and food much more so that just the trucking costs !

The farmer uses diesel for machinery and electricity to run a modern farm. Manufacturing fertilizer uses oil and energy.

This has to be one of the most insane ideas since the Liberals brought in the 12% manufacturers sales tax ... you know ... that hidden tax that was replaced by the VISIBLE GST !!!

Fay said...

Can you believe the GLobe and Mail editor Brian Laghi!! He actually believes Canadians can be convinced of paying gas tax as a virtue and a worthwhile sacrifice. What kind of bubble do they live in,in Toronto? And this guys represents the beliefs of the Globe and Mail? No wonder the general public are turning away from the Globe and Mail.

Anonymous said...

I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning. You don't want to abolish taxes do you? But changing the tax system to reflect reality is bad, mainly because your "brain trust" didn't think of it.

I love the ads too, because I love the smell of desperation from the criminal CPC.

Ontario Girl said...

Hypocrisy in the morning? How about the hidden, no plan, TAX GRAB of the sponsership SCANDAL?Where's the missing $40 million?

Heard Paul Martin is getting a private golf course in his own back yard? EXPENSIVE!!

The Canadian Press are keeping to form this morning too....supporting the LIBERANO$ LATEST hidden agenda TAX GRAB...

Anonymous said...

Hypocrisy in the morning? How about the hidden, no plan, TAX GRAB of the sponsership SCANDAL?Where's the missing $40 million?

Hahahahaha! So your response is "but but ADSCAM!". What money is missing? You guys can't even get your stories straight. Wasn't it $100 million?

Who paid for Harper's leadership bid? Why won't he disclose who bought him?


Heard Paul Martin is getting a private golf course in his own back yard? EXPENSIVE!!
He was a multimillionaire before entering politics. Remember the ships you were so angry because the fly the wrong flag?

The Canadian Press are keeping to form this morning too....supporting the LIBERANO$ LATEST hidden agenda TAX GRAB...
No, you are the ones with a poorly hidden agenda.

I'll take accounting fiascos due to mismanagement by Liberals over dead bodies due to the CPC any time.


And you didn't even come close to answering my question. Do you want to abolish taxes? Or are taxes a good thing?

wilson said...

Yikes, Craig Oliver chastizing the Liberals for
'loose lips sink ships'.....is he suggesting that this was a policy that should have been HIDDEN until the Libs won the election???
You bet he was.

anon said: ''No, you are the ones with a poorly hidden agenda.''

Well then anon, lets hear it. What is the Cons poorly hidden agenda?
Just once, I would like the yappy trolls to layout the hidden agenda for us.
Can't do it, because like Dion's Carbon Tax Trick, it came without details.

Reid said...

Wilson:

Whenever I hear someone I know talk about the "hidden agenda" of the Conservatives I ask them this:

"With Scott Brison, Belinda Stronach, Garth Turner all having defected to the Liberals, why haven't the Liberals actually ever publically stated what that hidden agenda is? I mean with actual ex-Conservatives they must know right?

I've never gotten an answer back.

Ontario Girl said...

Face it..the Lieberal party only knows how to steal and invent scandals.

Remember the lies of the LIEBERAL Red Book?

Remember the GST?

Where did the LIEBERALS hide the HQ for the gun registry?

How much did it cost us when the Libs cancelled the helicopter deal?

Libs...passing the debt to the provinces, raising taxes to bring in MORE cash from Can. taxpayers. All this & not paying taxes on PAUL MARTINS ships,(the millionaire)HRDC boondoggle, 2 billion dollar gun-registry,adscam, & other unaccounted Liberano$ Scandals.

These people stole from YOU.There CROOKS!!

Liberano$ "Hidden Agenda" all over again. Tories give voters their money BACK!

By the way...when is Dion going to pay his debt? No taxpayers money in brown envelops now? PMSH's leadership bid is PAID. Eat your heart out. Wasn't TAXPAYERS MONEY!

Any idea on the immigration vote tonight of how many phoney LIBERANO$ will vote?Or NOT?

Anonymous said...

I've never gotten an answer back.
That's because your friends were too busy laughing at you and your nice shiny straw man. The "hidden agenda" is quite well known, if you read Tom Flanagan and Harper's other mentors. The only reason it is called "hidden" is because they won't own up to it. It isn't really hidden.

Just once, I would like the yappy trolls to layout the hidden agenda for us.
The not so hidden agenda is to destroy Canada as we know it. Every one of our institutions is under attack. They want to abolish the Senate, and stack the Supreme Court with their hard right friends. They want to dismantle publicly funded health care. They attack our elections system. They want to criminalize abortion. They want to force students to study Creationism and treat it is science instead of as religion.

You see, the CPC agenda is not hidden at all. It's just on hold until you can get a majority.

hunter said...

Anon 3:09, Too funny! Lefties might believe that drivel, but I'm pretty sure Conservatives, want what is best for Canada, not like the Liberals who just want power at any cost.

I can almost see you sitting at your computer typing that garbage, spittle running down your chin, eyes bugged out, hair standing on end. Get a grip!

Ontario Girl said...

Right..own up to doctored tapes. Another scandal gone down the Liberano$ sewer. Cadman said himself..on TV..."No Offers". Get over it already.

Like" cannisters found in snowbanks" by Liberal Hacks on the way to dinner? How stupid do you Libs. think Canadian's are?

Abolish the senate? Liberano$ can't STAND the fact they can't pack the senate with Lieberals, like the past? It's already full of them, voting with LIBERANO$.

Hard right friends? No we need another century of hard left Liberano$ friends.Gilliano, car bombs,......

Dismantal the public funded health care? Like Paul Martin and Layton going to private clinics? Don't see our great PMSH going there. Nice try(should try to invent another scandal on that one?)

Attact EC? CBC & Liberal camera's in tow at the CPC headquarters ?LOL
Extensions to Liberals...

Abortion? Nice try...not even on the radar.

We need a majority? Canadians can't wait to rid themselves from the seat warming, pension collecting, useless Liberano$

How are they going to vote tonight on immigration(the only people who vote for them?) Answer THAT question. Don't bother...we all know that answer...LOLOL PHONEY'S!

Anonymous said...

Face it..the Lieberal party only knows how to steal and invent scandals.
Face it, the Criminal CPC is a scandal. No invention required. ADASCAM was about underlings involved in missing money. The Criminal CPC in&out theft goes right to the top. And financial wrongdoing pales against the Cadscam bribery and the Bernier breach of National Security.


Remember the lies of the LIEBERAL Red Book?
You must live a life of frustration if every idea and promise is called a "lie" when broken. The weather man is a liar half the time right? Someone doesn't show up for a meeting so they are a liar?
On the other hand, your people will say someone who is a party leader is "not a leader". You could say he's a bad leader, but since he is a leader, your saying he is not is a LIE.


Remember the GST?
Yes, that was Brian Mulroney's tax to replace the hidden Federal Sales Tax. While an efficient tax, it was very unpopular. But once in power, the Liberals discovered how bad the finances were. We were running a deficit of $40 BILLION a year. You can call the Liberals "tax and spend" if you like, but that is the function of government. Pay for things when you get them. The right wingers prefer "borrow and spend", making it someone else's problem. Retaining the GST was necessary to get the deficit under control, and in fact we were posting $10 billion surpluses instead of $40 billion deficits and paid $60 billion off the national debt when the Harper circus arrived.

Where did the LIEBERALS hide the HQ for the gun registry?
It is not hidden, it is in Miramichi

How much did it cost us when the Libs cancelled the helicopter deal?
$400 million. That was a dumb idea to cancel it. But the CPC left $1000 million on the table when they bought military aircraft without bothering to go to tender. One was an act of spite, the other an act of stupidity.

Libs...passing the debt to the provinces, raising taxes to bring in MORE cash from Can. taxpayers.
And ending the deficit, and paying down the national debt.

All this & not paying taxes on PAUL MARTINS ships,(the millionaire)
It is legal for ships to be flagged in other countries.

2 billion dollar gun-registry
Why does the cost matter if you are ideologically opposed to it? Instead of fixing it and getting some money back from the consultants you simply want to scrap it and let everyone carry guns.

adscam
No load of CPC bull is complete without mentioning the underlings fraud, to distract from bribery and in&out, approved by the PM.

& other unaccounted Liberano$ Scandals.
You mean "I ran out of rants, so I'll just make things up"


These people stole from YOU.There CROOKS!!
Yes the CPC are crooks.


Liberano$ "Hidden Agenda" all over again. Tories give voters their money BACK!
CPC hands out pittances instead of tackling the real problems.

By the way...when is Dion going to pay his debt?
He can make whatever arrangements he wants. At least his donors and lenders are not a secret.

No taxpayers money in brown envelops now? PMSH's leadership bid is PAID.
Yes, by persons unknown.

Eat your heart out. Wasn't TAXPAYERS MONEY!
No, whose was it, exactly? Who bought the PM?


Any idea on the immigration vote tonight of how many phoney LIBERANO$ will vote?Or NOT?
Wouldn't you like to know? You're all panting and foaming instead of governing. You'll be toppled when you least expect it.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:09, Too funny! Lefties might believe that drivel, but I'm pretty sure Conservatives, want what is best for Canada, not like the Liberals who just want power at any cost.
And you expect anyone to believe you do not want power? Baloney! All political parties want power. The only question is how much damage the CPC would do with majority power.

I can almost see you sitting at your computer typing that garbage, spittle running down your chin, eyes bugged out, hair standing on end. Get a grip!
You forgot to project me as sitting in the basement, and that my mommy will have to put me to bed soon. Sheesh! Try and come up with some original ad hominems, will you?

Anonymous said...

Right..own up to doctored tapes. Another scandal gone down the Liberano$ sewer.
The tapes were not doctored. Why do you hire some rent-an-expert? Isn't it a police matter?

Cadman said himself..on TV..."No Offers".
Cadman had weeks left to live. He wanted to live them in peace and not be hounded to his grave by the likes of you phoning and hanging up at all hours. You know the dirty tricks. He made sure the truth would get out, but wanted peace for his final weeks.


Get over it already.
Yes, you're sounding desperate.

Like" cannisters found in snowbanks" by Liberal Hacks on the way to dinner? How stupid do you Libs. think Canadian's are?
Not as stupid as your people think Canadians are.

Abolish the senate? Liberano$ can't STAND the fact they can't pack the senate with Lieberals, like the past? It's already full of them, voting with LIBERANO$.
So you admit you do want to abolish it. You could do it the old fashioned way, manage to stay in power 10 or 20 years and appoint them. That's the idea, the government that gets elected over and over gets to appoint Senators, maintaining stability in the system. But you'd rather replace everything every few years, at least until you can rig the game to keep your minority in power.

Hard right friends? No we need another century of hard left Liberano$ friends.Gilliano, car bombs,......
No, we need the government to the day to stay in power for long enough periods to make reasonable appointments to maintain stability. Or should we all be online and vote on each issue of the day?

Sorry, I didn't get the talking point memo about car bombs. What are you talking about?


Dismantal the public funded health care? Like Paul Martin and Layton going to private clinics?
They are still publicly funded clinics if they are in Canada.

Don't see our great PMSH going there. Nice try(should try to invent another scandal on that one?)
Yes, but PMSH is not "great" so he will go there, but only if he gets a majority. Nice try with the "Steve's not so bad" hoping nobody will notice it's only because he doesn't have a majority.


Attact EC? CBC & Liberal camera's in tow at the CPC headquarters ?LOL
Yes, after months of obfuscation, they had to call the cops.

Extensions to Liberals...
And CPCs. Reporting deadlines were met.

Abortion? Nice try...not even on the radar.
Not until the majority. Didn't you get the "Shhhh!" so-con memo? They're already trying to hoodwink us with C-484. They won't bother with something like that with a majority.

We need a majority? Canadians can't wait to rid themselves from the seat warming, pension collecting, useless Liberano$
You do not speak for Canadians.

How are they going to vote tonight on immigration(the only people who vote for them?) Answer THAT question. Don't bother...we all know that answer...LOLOL
They will vote that the system not be subject to the discriminatory whims of the Minister. We already have ways to target immigration for needed skills, Harper wants to be able to target to specific individuals.

PHONEY'S!
We know you are.

hunter said...

Anon 4:05 my number one fan!

I guess Anon doesn't have any Liberal friends, so he/she needs to come over here to play.

What's wrong, you tired of everyone agreeing with your Liberal talking points, and need to chat with real adults?

Ontario Girl said...

Just another Lieberal making excuses for the Liberano$ losers.

Life of frustration? LOL...My life is GREAT, especially since Canadians kicked the Liberano$ to the curb in the last election. You seem to be full of sour grapes. I think you need to get over it. An honest government has taken over.

Dion a leader? LOL..Reminds me of the guy who was at the beach and got sand kicked all over him by the muscle guy. I felt sorry for him too.

Yeah...finances bad? Blame that on Trudeau.

Ran out of rants? I could go on forever with truth and FACTS.

CPC are crooks? The proof? Court of law proof, which is coming.

Rent an expert?...Like the CBC Experts on the Gurmont Grewal Tapes? The CPC experts were used for the BenLaden tapes. Sure beats the bias CBC.

By the way...when is Dion planning to invade Pakistan? When he gets his majority?

Not much sense talking to Liberano$. Think you need to go back to your feel good site on the other side with Garth.

Raphael Alexander said...

Any additional taxes on gasoline would backfire politically for any party which implements it. Here in Vancouver the recent two cent carbon tax is a sick joke after residents have watched in horror the recent rise of per litre gas go from $1.17 in March to $1.46.8 as of today. So another 2 cents wouldn't do anything other than make us take note of whose hand holds the knife in our backs.

maryT said...

Glad someone pointed out that PMSH's leadership campaign is paid in full. No one bought him, unless you include the thousands of us who sent him small donations. Too bad liberals wont come thru for Dion and others.
Re the Senate, PMSH has made no secret that he wants to reform or abolish the senate. There are about 14 vacancies that he could put conservatives in, why hasn't he. It is those vacancies that Craig, and others are waiting for, if libs ever win again this decade.
Maybe PMSH should fill them, and end all the pandering of the media.