Tuesday, July 08, 2008

Is He Gone Yet??

Dion has been stinking up Alberta with his green shaft for too long, it's about time he left us, so we can go back to reality. Albertan's are polite by nature, but our patience can wear a little thin when some goof from Quebec comes here and proceeds to tell us what we should think.

Meddling Dion got off lightly

For four long and glorious days Public Enemy No. 1 waltzes around Alberta.

He's allowed to promote his devious plan to suck $15 billion a year out of the country's "700 large final emitters" - a large number of whom form our hydrocarbon economy heartland.

And nobody lays a glove on him.


...Dion says his big number is $15 billion a year. And he makes the preposterous claim that it will be "revenue neutral" because he will send it all out the door in a myriad of income tax tweaks.

It's designed to impress the above-mentioned soccer moms, who will see those bad Alberta oilsands and power plants punished. Plus, they'll have a little more left on their paycheques to spend on ME.

This Liberal urge to punish Albertans always seems to be lurking under the surface.

That is, until one of those 416 Liberal MPs brought it bubbling to the top last week when Garth Turner praised his great leader for taking it to those "self-aggrandizing, hostile, me-first, greedy macho, selfish and balkanizing" Quebec separatists.

"I guess he can do it again in Alberta," Turner sneered on his blog.

"Did I go too far?" Garbage Mouth Garth wondered later.

Not at all. You finally levelled with Albertans.


.....So I get to pose THE QUESTION: how big is the Alberta haircut?

"It's very difficult to do," Dion answered, adding something about taxing at the "wholesale" level rather than the "production" level.

But how you determine if a wholesale kilowatt of power is wind, coal or dam juice baffles me.

He did admit that " emissions are more concentrated in some provinces than others. Alberta is one of them."

Kinda had that figured already.

"We cannot come to an exact number," Dion insisted.



Dion didn't get the hostile reception he expected from Albertan's, from what I can see, he was pretty much ignored. So how brave was he? Not brave enough to appear on the David Rutherford show. Not brave enough to take questions from reporters at city hall. He appeared before Liberal party members in Calgary, at a youth rally against the oilsands in Edmonton, and one town hall meeting filled with hard core lefties, where adults prompted a little 8 year old to ask a pre-arranged question. Now that's brave!

Now he can go back east, and talk about his "success" in talking down to those nasty Albertan's who make all that "easy" money. Could you keep him there? Thanks.

22 comments:

Swift said...

Easterners were hoping you would keep him out there, perhaps buried up to his neck in tar sands.

hunter said...

Funny! Why do you think he didn't make a trip up to Fort Mac???

Ardvark said...
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Ardvark said...

Lots of spin while being short on real answers; that about sums it up.

Something that I did not mention in my post was just how polite everyone was to Dion. Considering what Garth said about us the other day even those that did not agree with the carbon tax seemed to go out of their way to be polite to the man. Something that PM Harper doesn't exactly get on a regular basis from those on the other side of the political spectrum.

BTW Swift, I know this is being picky but if you want tar sands go to La Brea California; if you want oil sands Fort Mac is the place to be. The use of tar sands for the oil sands is a lefty trick and misuse of wording to make them sound dirtier; don't fall for it.

maryT said...

I have to wonder if people know the difference between,
pollution and emmissions
co2 and carbon monoxode
dion-leadership
Just in, another OofC medal is being returned.

maryT said...

See how people can be confused, that should be carbon monoxide.

Rich said...

Question? Stephane Dion was out here for stampede week it seems I have heard Liberal spin like this once before. Oh I remember NEP. Was Pierre Elliot Trudea reincarnated as the nutty professor. Lord Help us

Anonymous said...

Always good for a laugh over here.

Dancing around the fact that Harper is scared to debate this with Dion. Instead, Harper stamps his feet and says "it's crazy!". I wonder where he learned that kind of juvenile response?

Hahahahahaha!

hunter said...

Anon 3:10 So why didn't Dion bring about an election if he's so sure of his position? Dion wants to dance, let's go to an election!

By the way, PM Harper is running a country while moron Dion is eating hot dogs at the Stampede with a fork and knife.

maryT said...

Why wont Dion go on the Dave Rutherford show.
Why didn't/couldn/t wouldn/t Dion answer questions at the meetings etc he had here. Albertans are polite, so he got no pies, boos or other insults. That doesn't mean we approve of him. He has no idea of how many were sitting there laughing at him. And, having to get an 8yr old boy planted in the audience was really low.
Good thing is by the time that kid can vote, he will see the truth and not vote liberal.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:10 So why didn't Dion bring about an election if he's so sure of his position? Dion wants to dance, let's go to an election!
Harper is contained, no election needed immediately. With all the threats to the very foundations of our nation, we want to ensure the Harper Reform party never gains power again. We're shooting for Harper beating Kim Campbell's record. So you will continue to twist in the wind for a while yet.
Contained.
And cornered.

By the way, PM Harper is running a country
And what exactly is he doing to "run the country" when Parliament is not sitting? Do you not understand that the country runs itself, and legislators simply make laws?

while moron Dion is eating hot dogs at the Stampede with a fork and knife.
Was he really eating hot dogs with a fork and knife? Or you just made that up?
What about the really important things, like which end of a soft boiled egg does he crack to open it?

It does fit though, doesn't it? Dion eats in a way to minimize slobbering on his face and clothes when he's in a business suit. You know, like some kids are taught: clean up after yourself and don't make a big mess.

Contrast that with Harper's policies that are mainly concerned with "privatizing" the profits for oil companies while "socializing" the costs. Yes, Harper's way is like letting kids throw food all around the place and saying "now if you eat more then you can throw more food around, but it has to be a slightly smaller percentage even though it is still much more". That is what "intensity targets" are.

Hahahahaha!

Ardvark said...
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maryT said...

The only one that will probably break KC's record is the liberals. Alberta will always stay away from liberals and ndp. That fact alone beats KC.
The Greens have already broke her record, not electing anyone. Think of Jack Layton as leader of the Official Opposition and liberals as the terd party. Question is will Goodale resign, for family reasons, or face getting beaten.
Regardless, Dion will never get a majority, and liberals have taught all other parties how to act in opposition. The Ethics committee could have a ball going back to Sponsorship, HRDC, gun registry, adscam, hotelgate and where did Martin get his money for his ships.

Ardvark said...

This scared to debate Dion spin is becoming too stupid and illogical to go uncommented on.

There are NO valid reasons for such a debate to take place at this time. During an election, yes, but Dion is not confident enough in his own plan or party to call one. Speaking of chickens.

In no time in the history of Canada has a PM ever had such a debate, and just because Dion wants to is not a valid reason no matter how many times you say it is.

Outside of the House, Dion is just another Canadian, and unless you figure the PM should debate anyone who asks, at anytime they ask, the logic is foolish.

In the House he is the Leader of the Official Opposition, and because of this he gets the privilege to address the PM in QP before anyone else. That is as far as his 'power' goes. Sure he is the leader of the LPC, but so what? What about Layton, Duceppe,or even May? Do they have the same alleged right to debate the PM as you claim Dion has? What about the Marijuana party or any other fringe party or even independent?

And what about those others who want to debate Dion on this issue? Why isn't he obligated to debate them, myself or anyone else who asks?

Last night Dion said Premier Stelmach wanted to debate him on this subject. His reply, "I will not fall for their tricks, I want to debate Harper". Try twisting that response around your Liberal logic for why the PM should debate Dion and get back to us.

hunter said...

Ardvark, guess anon has no response. Typical lefty, can't debate their way out of a wet paper bag.

Raphael Alexander said...

Check this out:

Dion sure Albertans will accept tax plan

What colour is the sky in Dion's world?

Enkidu said...

Swift, perhaps three feet farther down;)

(Special K, the little winky thing indicates that I am making a joke, don't try to sue me for uttering death threats or something.)

me said...

Don't mind that Liberal lapdog. He spends an inordinate amount of time dashing around the blogosphere shilling about how the conservatives are "cornered" and "contained". Never anything new. Just the same old regurgitated crap about how his master is biding his time while the tories, he says, hang themselves. Then, when the time is right, Dion the master strategist is going to ride in on his green steed to save Canada with our little friend running dutifully behind with the shovel. I suppose it helps him cope but the problems with his theory are that: 1) the tories haven't read his playbook and are busy reloading the gun while Dion runs around the country shooting himself in the head with his carbon tax 2) Dion, the defender of Canada, is going to have a rough go explaining to voters that all the time he was throwing little hissy fits and threatening to defeat the government, only to abstain on the vote, he was brilliantly allowing the government to defeat itself.

Let's hope this guy is in charge of the Liberal election campaign. I'm stocking up on champagne.

Oh and let me save you the trouble of replying, our anonymous Liberal friend: Bwaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa. I'm cornered. I'm contained.

Anonymous said...

This scared to debate Dion spin is becoming too stupid and illogical to go uncommented on.
Yes, it's working, isn't it?

There are NO valid reasons for such a debate to take place at this time. During an election, yes, but Dion is not confident enough in his own plan or party to call one. Speaking of chickens.

In no time in the history of Canada has a PM ever had such a debate, and just because Dion wants to is not a valid reason no matter how many times you say it is.

Outside of the House, Dion is just another Canadian, and unless you figure the PM should debate anyone who asks, at anytime they ask, the logic is foolish.

blah blah blah.

You want to claim "Dion is not a leader"? Sure. A leader debates instead of hiding. Simple. Are you now going to go for "nuance" like your dissembling above?

Hahahahahaha!

Anonymous said...

Don't mind that Liberal lapdog.
Yawn.

He spends an inordinate amount of time dashing around the blogosphere shilling about how the conservatives are "cornered" and "contained".
Inordinate, according to you. That means it is working. What is funny though, is that I only comment about cornered and contained here. Must be somebody else, or your own overreaction.

Never anything new. Just the same old regurgitated crap about how his master is biding his time while the tories, he says, hang themselves.
And the CPC is doing a fine job of hanging themselves, don't you think?


Then, when the time is right, Dion the master strategist is going to ride in on his green steed to save Canada with our little friend running dutifully behind with the shovel.
See how silly your memes about "Harper the master strategist" and "Harper the chess player" sound?
Nice touch with the horse though. Steve of course is an MP for cowtown, so he would ride to the rescue on a bull.

I suppose it helps him cope
Right on cue, the old mental illness routine. You forgot the dope addiction or "off his meds" musing though. Two points off.

but the problems with his theory are that: 1) the tories haven't read his playbook and are busy reloading the gun while Dion runs around the country shooting himself in the head with his carbon tax
The CPC is too arrogant to actually study their "enemy". They can read the "playbook" all they want, they are still deer in the headlights. Instead they bleat their sound bites over and over, hoping Canadians are so stupid they will take their word for it.

2) Dion, the defender of Canada, is going to have a rough go explaining to voters that all the time he was throwing little hissy fits and threatening to defeat the government, only to abstain on the vote, he was brilliantly allowing the government to defeat itself.
Seems Harper and his minions have a lock on throwing little hissy fits.

It was well known that Harper can only control the radical far right elements of his party for a limited time. As you can see, the legislation introduced in recent months, with the Liberals not supporting but not defeating, has become increasingly extremist and against what most Canadians want.

Since all of these can be repealed once the Harper interruption is over, it lets Canadians wonder "how much more radical far right would they be with a majority". We're already seeing watered down versions of what we could expect from Majority Steve.

Do you think "unborn victims of crime" would not be simply "outlaw all abortions" with Majority Steve?

Do you think "defense of religions act" would have been quietly dropped and not replaced with "repeal same sex marriage to save it from those dirty fingernailed faggots" with Majority Steve?

Do you think they would sneak the Censorship Act in with a budget bill to allow them to renege on previously agreed on tax breaks to encourage movie making? No, it would be fullblown outlawing of anything the Minister of Culture deems as offensive at the Minister's whim.

Let's hope this guy is in charge of the Liberal election campaign.
Sorry, I have no connection to them other than voting for their local candidate most of the time.

I'm stocking up on champagne.
Cheers!

Oh and let me save you the trouble of replying, our anonymous Liberal friend: Bwaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa. I'm cornered. I'm contained.
You're so helpful, but your claim that I am "dashing around the blogsphere" required a response.

But at least we agree, though as usual, you mix up the order.

You are contained, and now you are cornered.

me said...

That means it is working.
Oh,yes. We are all in profound awe of your Jesuit logic and superior intellect. All hail Liberal anon.

What is funny though, is that I only comment about cornered and
contained here.

So effective that you can only be bothered to post them here.

And the CPC is doing a fine job of hanging themselves, don't you think?
Let me see. The only thing of supposed substance that the Liberals have come up with since Dion became leader is their Green Shaft that was opposed by most Canadians right out of the gate and now their stupidity has them slapped with an 8.5 million dollar lawsuit. Only Liberal logic would regard being hit with trademark infringement suit as good public relations and endearing to the voters.

The CPC is too arrogant to actually study their "enemy".
Careful. I think the word arrogant is copyrighted by the Liberal party.

They can read the "playbook" all they want, they are still deer in the headlights.
Hahaaahaa. What a nimrod. The headlights were on Dion and the tories were driving the freaking car. First Dion lets the tories define him as a poindexter of a leader and then he lets the tories define his Green Shaft before he even says two words about it. This is a policy he stakes his leadership and party's election chances on and he lets the tories walk all over it and gets it caught up in a costly law suit. I'm breathless at the sheer genuis.

I'm typing this part slowly so you'll understand. Dion has shot his wad on his Green Shaft. He's laid all his cards on the table and now the tories are busy pulling it apart piece by piece. Unlike Dion, Harper's not about to tip his hand by engaging in a debate before the election. Harper knows all about the Green Shaft but Dion knows nothing about Harper's plans. It's all wasted on you, though, because the best argument you can come up with is that the tories are too arrogant.

To paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill: some deer, some headlights.

Right on cue, the old mental illness routine. You forgot the dope addiction or "off his meds" musing though. Two points off.
One more point off. I added delusional to your list. I get 20 points back, though, for not being a brain-dead Liberal. Final score: me, 17; you, nothing.

It was well known that Harper can only control the radical far right elements of his party for a limited time.
Oogah boogah. Here come the conservative boogeymen with their scary hidden agenda. Getting a little old, don't you think?

As you can see, the legislation introduced in recent months, with the Liberals not supporting but not defeating
We'd like to thank Dion profusely for letting the government get on with the task of governing and especially for letting the immigration reform bill pass. I understand, though, that he's a little busy explaining to his ethnic base how it was so brilliant of him to let a bill pass that they vehemently opposed.

Since all of these can be repealed once the Harper interruption is over
So what are you so scared of? If Canadians find those kinds of policies so repugnant, as you suggest, it would be political suicide to institute them even with a majority. The tories would get tossed out and the Liberals could repeal everything even after a tory majority. It seems to me what you fear is the tories forming a majority, instituting some of these policies, and being rewarded by successive majorities.

Do you think "defense of religions act" would have been quietly dropped and not replaced with "repeal same sex marriage to save it from those dirty fingernailed faggots"
You needn't be so defensive. There are plenty of conservatives who would support your right to be a dirty fingernailed faggot.

Ardvark said...

Since you chose to ignore all of the reasons why Dion calling for a debate is just nonsense. That "blah,blah,blah" part really makes for a convincing argument btw; they should put you on the payroll at the OLO. I will just ask you one question about your stellar come back.

"You want to claim "Dion is not a leader"? Sure. A leader debates instead of hiding. Simple."

And the reason why Dion won't debate Premier Stelmach is....?