Monday, July 21, 2008

The MSM, All Liberal, All The Time!

Why would any respectable paper print an article that calls our Prime Minister a racist? Have they no boundaries, no sense of what should be printed about the Prime Minister of our country? This lack of respect is scary, they are so caught up in their agenda against Conservatives that they will print anything they think will gain the Liberals some votes.

Frankly, it's disgusting and the MSM should take a step back and realize that they are doing more harm for their buddies the Liberals than good. They are also hurting our Canadian Muslims by showing support for one radical. Yet they are so consumed with hate for the Conservative government that they are willing to support statements by Mohamed Elmasry that have no validity, no facts. Let Elmasry speak, show him for what he is, but provide some balance in reporting.

I do not blame Elmasry, he is only the tool, it is the MSM that is prejudiced against the Conservative party. They are the true power behind the Liberals. Think about it, the Liberals can not take donations from companies anymore, but nothing is stopping the CBC, CTV and Global from printing Liberal friendly articles or TV segments. So, in essence, the Liberals are getting millions of dollars of free advertising every single day. Every article, every TV segment, like Question Period, gives the Liberals free media support.

There comes a time when people notice the bias, my Liberal parents have, will it help or hurt? Personally I think they have gone too far and it's starting to hurt. When you never see even one article that is positive towards the Prime Minister of our country, not one, you start to realize the magnitude of the problem. It makes me steam, maybe by next election it will make me boil over, but I wonder about all those advertisers the papers and TV stations need, should I support them with my money? What happens if we start emailing them and expressing our displeasure with the MSM, will they listen when their profits might be affected? Just asking.

41 comments:

Bruce from Cambridge said...

If its CTV or Global thats one thing. But its the thought that my tax dollars are going to the CBC that really makes me sick

Brian said...

Personally I have tuned out the MSM. I never watch CBC and rarely watch anything on CTV or Global.

Apart from the blatant Liberal bias , the news programming is really pathetic with lots of whining , pessimism and politically correct crap which is endlessly repeated throughout the day.

One day in the not too distant future , the MSM will wake up to find most of their readership / viewers have "left the building".

Alberta Girl said...

"Have they no boundaries, no sense of what should be printed about the Prime Minister of our country? This lack of respect is scary, they are so caught up in their agenda against Conservatives that they will print anything they think will gain the Liberals some votes."

WOW Hunter, I got to the end of the first paragraph and you have hit my raw nerve!! ha ha

That is exactly what I have been thinking - this is the Prime Minister of our country and the lack of respect the MSM show in their reporting is at an all time low.

They are no longer even hiding their bias - maybe they figure Canadians weren't getting it so no they are blatantly telling them what to think.

The worst thing is that they will deny, deny, deny that they are biased in any way.

Anonymous said...

I really think we have to inform the Sponsors" of CTV and the networks, enough is enough. I wrote CTV last week, to allow Craig Oliver to constantly bash our Government on Question Period, just for his liberal agenda is wrong. If he and Jane want a liberal show, then they should advertised it as such, but just to bash the Government for whatever topic they are on, it is time they were completely exposed. Having Gloria Galloway on there making negative comments, when her husband is dion's present stragetist. She constantly writes for the Globe and all of her articles has negative threads throughout them, with no mention of her liberal connections, is wrong. Craig and Tabor are also connected.... and it is just not right. Last Sunday, Craig went on and on about Harper having no Central Government so the Provinces had to do their own.... He is not paid to bash the conservative Government. Have the Premiers on, let them have their say, but to openly say, Harper is doing nothing, is wrong...By the looks of things, he is well beyong retirement age, let Graham Richardson take over, he at least tries to be more balanced. Craig and Tabor are paid liberal hacks...

Anonymous said...

Graham Richardson is just as bad, only a lot smarter at how he expresses his bias.

It took a CBC Radio program a few years ago to show me how bias the media has become. They had Deb Gray as a guest host on one day and it was a real eye opener.

Every time a guest would start into the Liberal message she would ask insightful, relevant questions that any good reporter would ask.

The guests, for the most part, were gobsmaked that she should question their platitudes. I realized then that I could never watch or listen to the MSM without grinding my teeth again.

The louder and more strident the MSM get the more the public will tune them out and/or question their pontifications. So I say bring it on, the sooner they shoot themselves in the foot the better for all of us. Now if only Fox TV would come to Canada. Cheers. SOR

Joe said...

Breaking news, "The MSM is biased"!

In another rapidly developing story, "The Pope is Catholic".

However I think that it is important to let that Muslim twit have his say. It may scare a few people into vowing to never allow Sharia law in Canada.

Personally I don't think that goof ball is doing the Islamic cause any good. Kind of like Tammy Faye Baker being a spokeswoman for Christianity. Shudder

Joanne (True Blue) said...

I tend to agree with Joe on this one.

If you support Mark Steyn and Ezra, etc. then you have to let the other side have their say too.

The problem is that only one side is being allowed to speak. Even moderate, liberal Muslims are being threatened into silence.

maryT said...

In the states listners and readers of tv and papers have had success in getting hosts and writers pulled. Think Imas, and today the outrage re Micheal Savage and his remarks re kids with autism. Threatening boycotts of advertisers works. Every product you use in your home has an 800 number on it somewhere. Remember that ad that said, Let your fingers do the walking, re the yellow pages, time for us to do that with Craig and giggles. If every Monday morning ctv received 1000s of calls, it would work. So far the most we have done is quit watching, but we have to let them and the sponsors know why. I don't know the number for others but the cbc has a talk back line-1-800-564-1422. You can leave a message and at least they have to listen to it and it feels so good when you finish your rant. I usually finish mine by saying, the sooner the cbc is privatized the better.
I do think the blogs have had a great effect on opinion. No longer can a politician say one thing in Ont and another in AB and get away with it. Anyone discover what the garth meant when he posted he would not have his job much longer.

Rich said...

If I supported any of the MSM only to find out that I was supporting garbage, hate, manipulation you name it; I will stop in a instant.
I wonder if these adviseting firms that support the MSM have any clue that their company's money is paying for Msm that supports corruption thievery terrorists. Do they know that.
I would advise the company to get the hell out of these MSM before it is too late provided that they value their company their name.

jad said...

Interesting poll in the States yesterday. According to Rasmussen, about 80% or Republicans and 25% of Democrats believe the MSM is biased in favour of Obama. But what was more interesting was that 50% of uncommitted voters believe the same.

Jen said...

CBC goes to every household now here is where it gets dangerous, the areas where CBC is contantly seen and heard are areas in canada where no other cable can get too or it is too expensive.
So what I hear in Alberta may not be heard in Eastern Canada.
When Dion or any liberal speaks against the prime minister is heard across the country but when the prime minister reponds to Dion's remarks may be heard some areas but definetely will not be heard where only CBC is seen and heard also in Easteern canada.

This is the work of manipulation; exactly the same format technique of broadcasting you will find in dictated corrupt countries.

Half of this country still thinks the liberals are in Office, they have no clue that the liberals stole from them nor do they know that the opposition parties supports terrorist groups and as long as these poor souls who know nothing is exactly how CBC wants to keep them. Oblivious to the outside media. THAT IS MANIPULATION.
CTV and the other MSM have followed suit.
Bias is not only the word they are corrupt as well.

frmgrl said...

As far as the other MSM following suit after the CBC is dead on. In fact Charles Adler said on his show last week something to the affect that many of these other people in the media industry are CBC wanna be's.
Thank God for Alder, Rutherford, Lowell Greene and others that give some resemblance of balance and common sense. Unfortunately, there are too few out there.
Thank God too for the internet and blogs for information so that I can decide for myself.
I hope that more and more people will get turned off of the MSM and turn to other sources for their news and information. I hardly pay attention to the MSM anymore. It's better for my health.

frmgrl said...

Another thing, does anyone notice all the deliberate ommissions that the MSM engage in? Whether it's something positive about PM Harper and the government or some kind of negative shenagins that any of the opposition parties have taken part in. Example, the so called Ethics Committee meeting last week in which the opposition totally subverted democracy to go on a witch hunt against the Conservatives. It's like it didn't happen.
That is something that the voting public needs to know. How their parlimentarians are behaving and how our taxpayer funds are being spent.

Anonymous said...

Interesting poll in the States yesterday. According to Rasmussen, about 80% or Republicans and 25% of Democrats believe the MSM is biased in favour of Obama. But what was more interesting was that 50% of uncommitted voters believe the same.
Funny that. Isn't Fox News the most watched? Would that not make them the MSM?

I thought MSM meant "main stream" media, implying the most watched media.

Or is MSM only applied to those you don't like.

Hahahahahahaha!

Anonymous said...

When Dion or any liberal speaks against the prime minister is heard across the country but when the prime minister reponds to Dion's remarks may be heard some areas but definetely will not be heard where only CBC is seen and heard also in Easteern canada.

This is the work of manipulation; exactly the same format technique of broadcasting you will find in dictated corrupt countries.

Half of this country still thinks the liberals are in Office, they have no clue that the liberals stole from them nor do they know that the opposition parties supports terrorist groups and as long as these poor souls who know nothing is exactly how CBC wants to keep them. Oblivious to the outside media. THAT IS MANIPULATION.
CTV and the other MSM have followed suit.
Bias is not only the word they are corrupt as well.

Libel.

You are most fortunate the MSM considers blogs a mere novelty.

Hahahahaha!

Anonymous said...

'You are most fortunate the MSM considers blogs a mere novelty.'

Yes, we are, as it will be to their detriment.

http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/080612/d080612b.htm
Canadian Internet Use Survey

DWT

Alberta Girl said...

"You are most fortunate the MSM considers blogs a mere novelty."

And that, anoyhaha, is why no thinking Canadian takes YOU seriously or takes the MSM seriously. To discount the power of blogs is folly.

Anonymous said...

Reading and then re-reading the CTV post I think you are trying too hard to identify bias. Maybe you should take a break from blogging and recharge your batteries. You'll feel better if you go for a walk to let off that excess steam. Eat some vegetables. Call an old friend to catch up on old times. Above all enjoy life!

Anonymous said...

Yes, good old blogs. Where someone tells blatant lies, gets called and told they are fortunate the MSM won't sue because they don't care about blogs. And the response? Changing the channel to be all about the MSM ignoring blogs.

Maybe they discount blogs because of all the fact free assertions made and lack of continuity of discussion.

Anonymous said...

"So, in essence, the Liberals are getting millions of dollars of free advertising every single day. Every article, every TV segment, like Question Period, gives the Liberals free media support"

To me, this quote from your post says it all.

If the Liberals and Conservatives are in any way close in support, this is the main reason.

If the MSM made any attempt at balanced reporting, you would see these numbers change drastically!

Even with polls showing a dead heat, the Liberals are still afraid to force an election.

The 2 main reasons:

1. The Conservatives can outspend them and get their message directly to the public

and

2. When it comes down to unfiltered, live debates, Dion is going to get eaten alive - and even the famed 'Southern Ontario Soccer Moms' will realize that he is unfit to govern.

The Liberals know this will continue to avoid a showdown.

All in all, the interference of the MSM in the political process is something we should all be concerned about.

Anonymous said...

Even with polls showing a dead heat, the Liberals are still afraid to force an election.

I always love the projection. "Afraid" are they? Now what would the BTs say if the situation was reversed? Probably blather about Steve playing grandmaster level chess or something.


The 2 main reasons:

1. The Conservatives can outspend them and get their message directly to the public

Yes, just like they did illegally in the last election.

That's just one reason the election hasn't come. You stalled the investigation of in&out, trying every trick in the book to force an election. Guess what? The Liberals knew that, so unless you really let your radicals loose, you will provide legislation that is tailored to force your defeat but that the Liberals can live with long enough for your criminal activities (in&out and Cadscam) to be exposed.

2. When it comes down to unfiltered, live debates, Dion is going to get eaten alive - and even the famed 'Southern Ontario Soccer Moms' will realize that he is unfit to govern.
Really? We're talking about debates, right? No Van Loans or Bairds shrieking from the sidelines?

What is different about these debates that will "eat Dion alive", and the one he has demanded with Harper? The one Steve is ducking at every turn?

The Liberals know this will continue to avoid a showdown.
Earth calling. There is a challenge for a debate out right now. What's Steve doing? Hiding. Must be some new chess move. It will be written up some day as the "Harper Maneuver". Right next to the write up on the "run and hide" strategy.

All in all, the interference of the MSM in the political process is something we should all be concerned about.
How are the Sun Media papers interfering? Don't the papers tend to reflect the views of their readers? You know, the ones who PAY to read them?


Hahahahahahaha!

Alberta Girl said...

"Earth calling. There is a challenge for a debate out right now. What's Steve doing? Hiding. Must be some new chess move."

Oh anonyhaha, you are really too funny. Why would the prime minister of this country waste his time "debating" with Dion. Isn't that what elections are for or what the H o C is for. Seems Dion and the Libs waited until the HoC had shut down before they released the Green Shaft and issued the challenge. I note that Dion won't debate Jack Layton or others who have issued the challenge.

What is he - chicken?? Oh, and anonyhaha - that was rhetorical as his actions over the past year speak volumes.

Stephen Harper has better things to do than debate Dion; the debate will come anonyhaha and when it does, Dion will be eaten alive.

It will be fun to watch.

Anonymous said...

Stephen Harper has better things to do than debate Dion;

Exactly what would that be? Parliament is not in session.
Steve is in a panic. Dion won't debate anyone else but Harper since Harper is the one endangering the country with his recklessness.

the debate will come anonyhaha and when it does, Dion will be eaten alive.

No he won't.

But you will be putting the word out everywhere as if that is what happened. That's what you do, right?

You see, unlike in the HoC, Steve can't rely on his shrieking harpy caucus to change the channel and shout down whatever they don't like. You will see Dion calmly debate, while Harper tries to move the goalposts and change the channel. When that doesn't work Harper will cry to the moderator, then later whine that the moderator was biased.

It will be fun to watch.
Definitely!

Alberta Girl said...

"Exactly what would that be? Parliament is not in session.
Steve is in a panic. Dion won't debate anyone else but Harper since Harper is the one endangering the country with his recklessness."

Please state exactly WHAT he is doing that is endangering the country!

"the debate will come anonyhaha and when it does, Dion will be eaten alive.

No he won't. "

Yeah - he will!

"But you will be putting the word out everywhere as if that is what happened. That's what you do, right?"

Um Anony, the word won't have to be "put out there"; it will be obvious to anyone who watches the debates that Stephen Harper is so far above Dion in his debating skills.

"You see, unlike in the HoC, Steve can't rely on his shrieking harpy caucus to change the channel and shout down whatever they don't like. You will see Dion calmly debate, while Harper tries to move the goalposts and change the channel. When that doesn't work Harper will cry to the moderator, then later whine that the moderator was biased."

Wow Anony, you really need to take off those rose colored glasses. Now that was funny!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"It will be fun to watch.
Definitely"

Can't wait!

hunter said...

anonhaha: You will see Dion calmly debate, while Harper tries to move the goalposts and change the channel. When that doesn't work Harper will cry to the moderator, then later whine that the moderator was biased.

Oh you poor thing, I didn't realize you were delusional. I just thought you were a cyber stalker.

You come to a Conservative blog hoping to do what? Change my mind and the minds of my readers? With Liberal talking points? My Liberal parents had 18 years to convince me to become a Liberal, it didn't work for them, it's not going to work for you. I don't think you understand that being Conservative is not just how someone votes, it's a way of thinking and acting.

Why do you come here? It's not to have an honest debate about any issue. I just think you like being a pest, or you feel more at home with Conservative thinking people.

THAT'S IT! You're a closet Conservative! HA!

Anonymous said...

You come to a Conservative blog hoping to do what? Change my mind and the minds of my readers?
Your minds are made up, yet you feel the need to prattle on. Why?

My Liberal parents had 18 years to convince me to become a Liberal, it didn't work for them, it's not going to work for you.
Concern trolling at its finest.

Dion went against his parents' politics too. He was a Marxist for a day, and a separatist for a few weeks. But then he grew up. Why haven't you?

I don't think you understand that being Conservative is not just how someone votes, it's a way of thinking and acting.
Right now, it's all about how one votes. The CPC is something worthy of Dr. Frankenstein, made from a Reform base and the Progressive Conservatives forcibly grafted on after discarding the Progressive part.

Why do you come here?
Last week you were sniggering about how much this place must bother me. You do expect people to come and see your message.

It's not to have an honest debate about any issue.
I either comment on the post, or I comment on the insults I receive after commenting on the post. You just think "honest debate" is limited to singing the praises of Stephen Harper.

I just think you like being a pest, or you feel more at home with Conservative thinking people.
I enjoy watching your projection, the continuous rah rah cheerleading and silly accusations, such as the topic of this post, claiming MSM bias. While conveniently ignoring Sun Media.

THAT'S IT! You're a closet Conservative! HA!
The current CPC is an insult to conservatives. It is overrun by Reform ideologues and Republican wannabes.

Some tried to work with it, hoping it would grow and change. But instead it has stagnated and now has revealed its anti-Canada colours.

hunter said...

anonhaha: Some tried to work with it, hoping it would grow and change. But instead it has stagnated and now has revealed its anti-Canada colours.

Oh, now I see it, you are a disgruntled "progressive" conservative with no home.

Don't you DARE ever say that Conservatives are anti-Canada, that is totally ridiculous. Canada is more united now under the Conservative government than it ever was under the Liberals. If Dion happens to get in next election, expect to see both Quebec and Alberta separatist movements gain momentum, again.

You know why Alberta hasn't separated yet? Especially after the NEP? Of all the provinces, we are the staunchest supporters of a strong Canada, united and free.

What is the Liberal motto, greener and richer. That doesn't mean Canadians will be richer, just Liberals.

Anonymous said...

Oh, now I see it, you are a disgruntled "progressive" conservative with no home.

Always with the "you're angry", "you're crazy", "you're disgruntled". That passes for debate here?

I tend to vote for whoever will do the least damage. Harper's Reformatories are dangerous.


Don't you DARE ever say that Conservatives are anti-Canada, that is totally ridiculous.

Then why do you consider it OK to say the Liberals support terrorists? That is totally ridiculous.


Segue into the talking point...
Canada is more united now under the Conservative government than it ever was under the Liberals.

Baloney. We're just more focused now, on getting rid of the CPC, whose leader sneers we are a second rate country.


If Dion happens to get in next election, expect to see both Quebec and Alberta separatist movements gain momentum, again.

I think Harper has stoked up separatism a lot. But the separatists cannot be too happy with him. He wants to join Canada to the States, and by doing so would destroy the chances for separated provinces to be anything but outsiders. Fortunately most people are tired of separatism and see the value in working together. But not so together that we end up as a new member of the United States.

You know why Alberta hasn't separated yet? Especially after the NEP? Of all the provinces, we are the staunchest supporters of a strong Canada, united and free.

The oil companies really put the screws on you when the NEP came about to wrestle control of resources away from the foreign owned majors. They fought tooth and nail for their right to strip mine the whole place and leave all of us to clean up the mess after. They deliberately created hardship for you, hoping to spark a revolt. It's worked in other places when the government is deemed "unfriendly" by them. You were punished by them for the federal government trying to help us all.

The oil companies prefer weak banana republic type governments that they can buy off or threaten to get their way. They would have loved for you to separate and become just another shiekdom they could exploit.

Since a lot of Albertans originally came from eastern Canada, they were smart enough not to let the oil companies goad them into giving the store away. The oil companies miscalculated on that one, and eventually came back anyway, since there is still plenty of money to be made here.

What is the Liberal motto, greener and richer. That doesn't mean Canadians will be richer, just Liberals.
No, it's for everybody.

karmat said...

I'm just your normal average Canadian, and as such I sent an email to Global recently after getting ticked off after watching one of their newscasts. They haven't responded yet, probably won't. Here's what I sent...

I just watched the interview Kevin Newman did with PM Harper today that was supposed to be about Quebec's anniversary and was thoroughly ticked off by Newman's continuous digging for dirt. It should have been just a normal fluff-and-stuff interview about a feel-good event, but he kept trying to turn it into something else. It was a pleasure to watch Harper effortlessly steer the interview back to what I'm sure he agreed to in the first place - an interview about Quebec's anniversary! I didn't realize till now that Global is just another biased outlet for the liberal party.

When is the MSM going to realize that quite a large segment of the population voted for Harper and the Conservative Party, and we have a right to see and hear unbiased reporting on all issues - not just your (liberal) take on it. You have to realize that you're insulting a hell of alot of people when you do this. It's as if we don't count. And if we are not important to you, because we are Conservatives, then your channel and your shows are not important to us. What would your advertisers think - whatever party they follow, I'm sure advertising revenue comes first.

I will not be tuning in to the Global channel anymore, I'll be sticking to the blogs for my news since there seems to be a few that like to report the news honestly. If I read on one of them that Global is starting to report in a non-partisan manner, I might be back.

Raphael Alexander said...

I think that publishing anything Elmasry thinks is definitely a waste of time. Well put Hunter.

Anonymous said...

I think that publishing anything Elmasry thinks is definitely a waste of time.

I agree. That's because it actually makes Harper look good by comparison.

But the boneheads here don't get that, do they?

Hahahahahahaha!

rich said...

ANONHAHA, go to the liberal blogs and do some investigating and locate the missing millions of dollars which the liberals stole from us all; also ask paul martin to give back our money ($161million) which he took from us to pay for his shipping company.

WE KNEW THEN THE LIBERALS STOLE IN THE MILLIONS FROM CANADIANS AND WE STILL KNOW THAT THEY HAVE YET TO RETURN OUR MONEY.

Alberta Girl said...

"He wants to join Canada to the States"

WHAT?????

Anonyhaha - you have been smoking way too much of the wacky tabacky.

Please provide a link (to quote one of your ilk) to prove your
statement.

"They fought tooth and nail for their right to strip mine the whole place and leave all of us to clean up the mess after"

OK Anony HAHAHAHAHA now I know that you have absolutely no idea about what you speak. Why don't you actually do a little research instead of listening to the environazies. Do you not realize that the oil companies, by law, have to reclaim the land. Have you not seen reclaimed land. Instead of spouting off something that you don't have a clue about, why not do a bit of research. I'll even start you out with some links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_sands

http://equipment.pennenergy.com/article/display.html?id=334604

http://environment.gov.ab.ca/info/listing.asp?page=12&categoryid=4


If you are seriously wanting to learn something anonyhaha, and seriously are "progressive" and willing to learn, why don't you do the research so that you can be informed when you comment. Because to make comments like you did just shows how ignorant you are.

Anonymous said...

Do you not realize that the oil companies, by law, have to reclaim the land. Have you not seen reclaimed land.
They haven't reclaimed the open pit mines or the tailings ponds yet. At least they are doing something though.

However, my point was that they fought hard to be able to do this. But they lost. They would have had a better chance to do so with an independent Republic of Alberta government, which is why they tried to make life so unbearable for you. When that failed, they came back.

Anonymous said...

"hey haven't reclaimed the open pit mines or the tailings ponds yet. At least they are doing something though."

What open pit mines - you idiot - if they are WORKING mines they are not reclaimed; if they are done - they are reclaimed.

Tailing ponds - well that just shows me EXACTLY what you know - the Tailing ponds, idiot are a result of the process - when the project is done, so are the tailing ponds.

Why don't you learn about Alberta and the oil companies instead of blustering on about something you obviously do not know anything about.

The fact that you have made the kind of statements you have proves that you are just blowing smoke.

I challenge you to actually do some research; find out if what you believe is actually happening. I think you might be in for a rude awakening at how wrong you are and how you have been suckered by the environazies like the Fruit Fly Guy and the Failed Presidential Candidate.

The challenge is there anonyhaha - will you take it?

Alberta Girl said...

Crap - that last comment was mine - hit the send before I typed my name.

Anonymous said...

Which tailing pond has been reclaimed?

Which open pit mine is now reclaimed?

From here:

"Capstick acknowledged that reclaiming a soil dump will probably be easier than dealing with tailings ponds or the giant pits left by the actual mines."

Unless a lot has happened since March 2008, they have yet to reclaim any tailings ponds or any mine pits.

Why do you moan that the Green Shift is "just a plan" when all we have from the strip miners is "just a plan". A good plan I think, but they still have not done very much.

And all this was a sidebar to the fact that the oil companies punished YOU for the federal government's NEP and hoped to spark a revolt like what happens in other countries where they don't get their way.

You were saying something about me not knowing what I am talking about?

Hahahahahahahahaha!

Alberta Girl said...

But Anony, it was YOU who made the statement that the strip mines were left to you to clean up. BS - the oil companies are doing that as regulated.

So yes, I stand by my assertion that you don't have a clue what you are talking about!!!! Nice try though - I give you kudos for actually looking into it.

Alberta Girl said...

http://oilsands.alberta.ca/documents/Tailings_management.pdf

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/112640643/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

http://environment.gov.ab.ca/info/faqs/faq5-oil_sands.asp

Aonyhaha - YOU (unless you own an oil company) are not part of the clean up.

Perhaps you want to look at some of the mines, gravel pits, etc. in other part of the country instead of just focusing on the one province in Canada that IS doing something about the environment.

Anonymous said...

But Anony, it was YOU who made the statement that the strip mines were left to you to clean up. BS - the oil companies are doing that as regulated.

You really are being willfully obtuse, aren't you?

My statement was that they WANT to leave it all to us. Not that they ARE being left. That remains to be seen.

Plus it was given as an example of what they want, in the context of my claim that they punished you for the federal government's NEP, hoping to spark a revolution which would result in an independent Alberta, much smaller and easier for them to push around and get their way.

I thought you would have attacked that, rather than misread my words to state they are doing nothing for reclaiming. It can be a separate argument about whether they are doing enough reclaiming, and we can wonder when they will reclaim a mine pit or tailings pond, but my statement was simply about what the oil companies would prefer.

Alberta Girl said...

Speaking of being obtuse!

"My statement was that they WANT to leave it all to us. Not that they ARE being left. That remains to be seen."

Who says anonyhaha - David S, Greenpeace - of course they want you to believe that - it furthers their agenda.

As for them wanting to generate a protest - Anony - I lived through it, my husband lived through it - believe me; there were hardships, there were job losses; it was real - as much as you believe it was something built in the minds of the oil companies.

But being hardworking and resourseful and having a government that believed in a free market; Alberta rallied back and has become the province it is today - complete with oil companies that have instituted environmental policies on their own and a government that is the most proactive in Canada in dealing with environmental issues.

Now I go back to my statement about why you are not dealing with the strip mines and the gravel pits and the environmental problems in other provinces. Turn your rose colored glasses towards those and demand that they do what Alberta is doing.